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Starting: Mon Sep 1 13:38:13 EDT 2003
Ending: Tue Sep 30 21:27:30 EDT 2003
Messages: 378

• [openbox] Alpha7 release   Fryderyk Dziarmagowski
• [openbox] maximize over dock   Matt Michalowski
  • [openbox] maximize over dock   Mikael Magnusson
• Suspending with wmapm leaves a gray box   Dugan Chen
• "Execute" hotkeys and centrally aligning dock   Dugan Chen
  • [openbox] "Execute" hotkeys and centrally aligning dock   Peter Chiocchetti
  • [openbox] "Execute" hotkeys and centrally aligning dock   Marc Wilson
  • [openbox] "Execute" hotkeys and centrally aligning dock   Ben Jansens
  • [openbox] "Execute" hotkeys and centrally aligning dock   Mikael Magnusson
• ob3 Docs && startup-notification   Andy Holmes
  • [openbox] ob3 Docs && startup-notification   Ben Jansens
    • [openbox] startup-notification   Adam Stephens
      • [openbox] startup-notification   Ben Jansens
• Possible alpha 7 bug   Jason Mobarak
  • [openbox] Possible alpha 7 bug   Ben Jansens
    • [openbox] Possible alpha 7 bug   Jason Mobarak
• Alpha8 out   Ben Jansens
• Dock question   Gnu Kemist
  • openbox, segmentation fault and others   Irakli Tsagareli
    • [openbox] openbox, segmentation fault and others   Tim Riley
    • [openbox] openbox, segmentation fault and others   Irakli Tsagareli
    • [openbox] openbox, segmentation fault and others   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
      • [openbox] openbox, segmentation fault and others   Ben Jansens
  • [openbox] Dock question   Dale K Dicks
• freebsd   Dale K Dicks
  • [openbox] freebsd   Ben Jansens
    • [openbox] freebsd   Risto Erik
    • [openbox] freebsd   Irakli Tsagareli
• [openbox] Include   Ben Jansens
• [openbox] freebsd   Roman Neuhauser
• coordinates indicator   Ryan Freeman
  • [openbox] coordinates indicator   Mike Oosten
    • [openbox] coordinates indicator   Ryan Freeman
• [openbox] maximize over dock   Matt Michalowski
  • [openbox] maximize over dock   Ben Jansens
• Theme Pipe Menu Script   Jordan
  • [openbox] Theme Pipe Menu Script   Marius Nita
    • [openbox] Theme Pipe Menu Script   Jordan
  • [openbox] Theme Pipe Menu Script   Robert Upshall
    • [openbox] Theme Pipe Menu Script   Tim Riley
    • [openbox] Theme Pipe Menu Script   Jordan
      • [openbox] Theme Pipe Menu Script   Robert Upshall
      • [openbox] Theme Pipe Menu Script   Jordan
      • [openbox] Theme Pipe Menu Script   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] Theme Pipe Menu Script   Jordan
    • [openbox] Theme Pipe Menu Script   Marius Nita
  • [openbox] Theme Pipe Menu Script   Jordan
  • bash bg menu script   Jordan
    • [openbox] bash bg menu script   Michael Rasile
      • [openbox] bash bg menu script   Jordan
      • [openbox] bash bg menu script   Michael Rasile
• openoffice   Brian Craft
  • [openbox] openoffice   Ben Jansens
• Java apps killing ob3?   Eustaquio Rangel de Oliveira J
• Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Tim Riley
  • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Michael Rasile
    • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Michael Rasile
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Michael Rasile
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Michael Rasile
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Michael Rasile
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Michael Rasile
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Michael Rasile
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Matt O'Connor
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Marius Nita
      • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Jason Mobarak
• SharpOB3 theme   Robert Upshall
• Java apps killing ob3?   Eustaquio Rangel de Oliveira J
• New theme format proposal   Andy Holmes
  • [openbox] New theme format proposal   David Barr
    • [openbox] New theme format proposal   Andy
  • [openbox] New theme format proposal   Tim Riley
    • [openbox] New theme format proposal   Andy
      • [openbox] New theme format proposal   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] New theme format proposal   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] New theme format proposal   Andy
      • [openbox] New theme format proposal   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] New theme format proposal   Andy
      • [openbox] New theme format proposal [PATCH]   Ben Jansens
• another xml theme format proposal   Mikachu
• beta1, xinerama, and menu placement   Socheat Sou
  • [openbox] beta1, xinerama, and menu placement   Ben Jansens
    • [openbox] beta1, xinerama, and menu placement   Socheat Sou
      • [openbox] beta1, xinerama, and menu placement   Ben Jansens
• Do I NEED an external panel app?   Dugan Chen
  • [openbox] Do I NEED an external panel app?   David Barr
  • [openbox] Do I NEED an external panel app?   Alexander Futasz
• [openbox] Do I NEED an external panel app?   Dugan Chen
  • [openbox] Do I NEED an external panel app?   David Barr
• Debian update-menus script for Openbox 3   Marcelo Ramos
• Problems keybinding the menu in beta1?   Chris Anderson
  • [openbox] Problems keybinding the menu in beta1?   Marcelo Ramos
    • [openbox] Problems keybinding the menu in beta1?   Chris Anderson
• [MAILER-DAEMON at icculus.org: failure notice] (fwd)   Ryan C. Gordon
• Mouse action   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
  • [openbox] Mouse action   Jason Mobarak
• [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Tim Riley
  • [openbox] Announcing bgmenu for openbox   Michael Rasile
• moving of maximized windows   Christian von Mueffling
  • [openbox] moving of maximized windows   Ben Jansens
• manipulate windows   Johannes Jordens
  • [openbox] manipulate windows   Tim Riley
    • [openbox] manipulate windows   Mikael Magnusson
      • [openbox] manipulate windows   Tim Riley
• xml file editing   Peter Chiocchetti
  • [openbox] xml file editing   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
    • [openbox] xml file editing   Peter Chiocchetti
• Java apps killing ob3?   Eustaquio Rangel de Oliveira J
  • [openbox] Java apps killing ob3?   Ben Jansens
• Openbox3 Beta1 and Radeon 9700pro in Dual head mode   Scott Lemke
  • [openbox] Openbox3 Beta1 and Radeon 9700pro in Dual head mode   Marc Wilson
    • [openbox] Openbox3 Beta1 and Radeon 9700pro in Dual head mode   Scott Lemke
      • [openbox] Openbox3 Beta1 and Radeon 9700pro in Dual head mode   Ben Jansens
• [ANNOUNCE] Beta2 and ObConf-1.0 released   Ben Jansens
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Beta2 and ObConf-1.0 released   Tom
    • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Beta2 and ObConf-1.0 released   keeper at neo.rr.com
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Beta2 and ObConf-1.0 released   Tom
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Beta2 and ObCon:wqf-1.0 released   keeper at neo.rr.com
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Beta2 and ObConf-1.0 released   Marc Wilson
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Beta2 and ObConf-1.0 released   Bobby R. Cox
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Beta2 and ObConf-1.0 released   Peter Chiocchetti
• [openbox] Do I NEED an external panel app?   Dugan Chen
• [openbox] Do I NEED an external panel app?   Dugan Chen
  • [openbox] Do I NEED an external panel app?   Jason Mobarak
• docker?   Robert Upshall
• ob3 and mozilla   keeper at neo.rr.com
  • [openbox] ob3 and mozilla   Eustaquio Rangel de Oliveira J
  • [openbox] ob3 and mozilla   Ilkka Pajari
• window.handle.width & beta2   Andy
  • [openbox] window.handle.width & beta2   Chandler Carruth
    • [openbox] window.handle.width & beta2   Andy
      • [openbox] window.handle.width & beta2   Chandler Carruth
• [openbox] Do I NEED an external panel app?   Dugan Chen
• desktop switching   Dale K Dicks
  • [openbox] desktop switching   ManMower
  • [openbox] desktop switching   Marc Wilson
    • [openbox] desktop switching   Dale K Dicks
• menuOverlap settings   Dale K Dicks
  • [openbox] menuOverlap settings   Tim Riley
    • [openbox] menuOverlap settings   Dale K Dicks
• suggestion/request re: separators   Dale K Dicks
  • [openbox] suggestion/request re: separators   Tim Riley
    • [openbox] suggestion/request re: separators   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
      • [openbox] suggestion/request re: separators   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] suggestion/request re: separators   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
      • [openbox] suggestion/request re: separators   Andy
      • [openbox] suggestion/request re: separators   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
      • [openbox] suggestion/request re: separators   Andy
      • [openbox] suggestion/request re: separators   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
      • [openbox] suggestion/request re: separators   Andy
      • [openbox] suggestion/request re: separators   Dale K Dicks
• desktop switching   Dale K Dicks
  • [openbox] desktop switching   Ben Jansens
    • [openbox] desktop switching   Dale K Dicks
      • [openbox] desktop switching   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] desktop switching   Dale K Dicks
      • [openbox] desktop switching   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] desktop switching   Dale K Dicks
      • [openbox] desktop switching   ManMower
      • [openbox] desktop switching   Marius Nita
      • [openbox] desktop switching   Dale K Dicks
• flames   Dale K Dicks
  • [openbox] flames   Marius Nita
• some problem with xfree 4.3 (probably)   Libor Klepáč
  • [openbox] some problem with xfree 4.3 (probably)   Ben Jansens
    • [openbox] some problem with xfree 4.3 (probably)   Libor Klepáč
• a test icon?   David Barr
  • [openbox] a test icon?   Tim Riley
  • [openbox] a test icon?   Ben Jansens
• [ANNOUNCE] Openbox Beta3, ObConf 1.1 released   Ben Jansens
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox Beta3, ObConf 1.1 released   Peter Chiocchetti
    • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox Beta3, ObConf 1.1 released   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox Beta3, ObConf 1.1 released   Marc Wilson
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox Beta3, ObConf 1.1 released   Ben Jansens
• obconf   Michael Rasile
  • [openbox] obconf   Tim Riley
    • [openbox] obconf   Michael Rasile
    • [openbox] obconf   Michael Rasile
      • [openbox] obconf   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] obconf   Michael Rasile
• todo for 3.0 final   Robert Upshall
  • [openbox] todo for 3.0 final   Andy Holmes
  • [openbox] todo for 3.0 final   Marc Wilson
  • [openbox] todo for 3.0 final   Ben Jansens
    • [openbox] todo for 3.0 final   Robert Upshall
      • [openbox] todo for 3.0 final   Peter Chiocchetti
      • [openbox] todo for 3.0 final   Peter Chiocchetti
  • [openbox] todo for 3.0 final   Michael Scherer
    • [openbox] todo for 3.0 final   Ben Jansens
  • [openbox] todo for 3.0 final   Ilkka Pajari
    • [openbox] todo for 3.0 final   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] todo for 3.0 final   Ilkka Pajari
      • [openbox] todo for 3.0 final   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] todo for 3.0 final   Ilkka Pajari
• dock and usable workspace   Alexander Glyzov
  • [openbox] dock and usable workspace   Mads Martin Joergensen
• Openbox 3 beta3 and GNOME 2.4.0   Robert Upshall
  • [openbox] Openbox 3 beta3 and GNOME 2.4.0   David Barr
    • [openbox] Openbox 3 beta3 and GNOME 2.4.0   Robert Upshall
      • [openbox] Openbox 3 beta3 and GNOME 2.4.0   David Barr
      • [openbox] Openbox 3 beta3 and GNOME 2.4.0   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] Openbox 3 beta3 and GNOME 2.4.0   Robert Upshall
      • [openbox] Openbox 3 beta3 and GNOME 2.4.0   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] Openbox 3 beta3 and GNOME 2.4.0   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] Openbox 3 beta3 and GNOME 2.4.0   Marc Wilson
      • [openbox] Openbox 3 beta3 and GNOME 2.4.0   Ben Jansens
• fullscreen mplayer   Peter Chiocchetti
  • [openbox] fullscreen mplayer   Marc Wilson
• (ob3) maximise over dock, switch focus dialog   MXN
  • [openbox] (ob3) maximise over dock, switch focus dialog   ManMower
    • [openbox] (ob3)   Peter Chiocchetti
      • [openbox] (ob3)   Douglas A. Augusto
      • [openbox] (ob3)   Douglas A. Augusto
      • [openbox] (ob3)   Peter Chiocchetti
      • [openbox] (ob3)   Ben Jansens
• Different background picture/gradient for each workspace   Alexander Glyzov
  • [openbox] Different background picture/gradient for each workspace   Tim Riley
  • [openbox] Different background picture/gradient for each workspace   Marc Wilson
• openbox 3.0 suggestions   Ari Pollak
  • [openbox] openbox 3.0 suggestions   Ben Jansens
• [openbox] (ob3)   Tim Riley
• OB3 -- Great work.   Brett Campbell
• [openbox] OB3 -- Great work.   Dugan Chen
• [openbox] OB3 -- Great work.   Tim Riley
  • [openbox] OB3 -- Great work.   Brett Campbell
    • [openbox] OB3 -- Great work.   Tim Riley
      • [openbox] OB3 -- Great work.   Tim Riley
• [openbox] OB3 -- Great work.   Dugan Chen
  • [openbox] OB3 -- Great work.   Brett Campbell
• OB3 and autoraise   Dave Swegen
  • [openbox] OB3 and autoraise   Ben Jansens
    • [openbox] OB3 and autoraise   Ryan Freeman
    • [openbox] OB3 and autoraise   Dave Swegen
• Iconified applications   Brett Campbell
  • [openbox] Iconified applications   Ben Jansens
    • [openbox] Iconified applications   Brett Campbell
• rootCommand   Michael Rasile
  • [openbox] rootCommand   Andy Holmes
    • [openbox] rootCommand   Michael Rasile
• [ANNOUNCE] Openbox 3.0 Beta4 and ObConf 1.2 out   Ben Jansens
• beta4 rules!!   Andy Holmes
• [ANNOUNCE] Obconf 1.3 released   Ben Jansens
• theme menu script updated for beta4   Jordan
  • [openbox] theme menu script updated for beta4   Michael Rasile
    • [openbox] theme menu script updated for beta4   Jordan
      • [openbox] theme menu script updated for beta4   Michael Rasile
      • [openbox] theme menu script updated for beta4   Bobby R. Cox
      • [openbox] theme menu script updated for beta4   Jordan
• Another suggestion: menu header   MXN
• bgmenu.rb   Bobby R. Cox
  • [openbox] bgmenu.rb   Tim Riley
• new bgmenu on the loose   Tim Riley
• Stop press! New bgmenu works with GNOME!   Tim Riley
• Openbox2 NET_WM_FULLSCREEN fix   Arwed von Merkatz
• Openbox3 taskbar?   Argle Bargle
  • [openbox] Openbox3 taskbar?   Ben Jansens
• XFT Font Shadows.   Jonathan Daugherty
  • [openbox] XFT Font Shadows.   Ben Jansens
• Backgrounds   Michael Rasile
  • [openbox] Backgrounds   Tim Riley
    • [openbox] Backgrounds   Tim Riley
    • [openbox] Backgrounds   Michael Rasile
      • [openbox] Backgrounds   Tim Riley
• iconify & the toolbar...   Christopher DeMarco
  • [openbox] iconify & the toolbar...   Tim Riley
    • [openbox] iconify & the toolbar...   Christopher DeMarco
• obconf compile error?   Christopher DeMarco
  • [openbox] obconf compile error?   Ben Jansens
    • [openbox] obconf compile error?   Christopher DeMarco
• theme menu script   Marius Nita
• announce: ob3_theme, ob3_q3stat and my openbox patch   Mike
• non-XFT font support for older machines   Cas Cremers
  • [openbox] non-XFT font support for older machines   Ben Jansens
• NextWindow and Raise   Christian von Mueffling
  • [openbox] NextWindow and Raise   Ben Jansens
• [ANNOUNCE] Beta5 released   Ben Jansens
• [ANNOUNCE] ObConf 1.4   Ben Jansens
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf 1.4   Peter Chiocchetti
    • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf 1.4   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf 1.4   Peter Chiocchetti
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf 1.4   brian
    • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf 1.4   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf 1.4   brian
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf 1.4   brian
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf 1.4   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf 1.4   brian
• [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Ben Jansens
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Andy Holmes
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Mike
    • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Mike
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Ryan Freeman
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Mike
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Mike
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Arwed von Merkatz
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Mike
    • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-beta6 released   Ben Jansens
• ToggleMaximizeFull returns to previous x coordinate but centers y   Cas Cremers
  • [openbox] ToggleMaximizeFull returns to previous x coordinate but centers y   Ben Jansens
• obconf 1.4 buglet found   MXN
  • [openbox] obconf 1.4 buglet found   Ben Jansens
• focus_fallback() v1.106 cvs change   Mike
  • [openbox] focus_fallback() v1.106 cvs change   Ryan Freeman
  • [openbox] focus_fallback() v1.106 cvs change   Ben Jansens
    • [openbox] focus_fallback() v1.106 cvs change   Mike
      • [openbox] focus_fallback() v1.106 cvs change   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] focus_fallback() v1.106 cvs change   Mike
      • [openbox] focus_fallback() v1.106 cvs change   Marius Nita
      • [openbox] focus_fallback() v1.106 cvs change   Mike
• [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf 1.4   Peter Chiocchetti
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf 1.4   Tim Riley
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf 1.4   Ben Jansens
• Debian packages available   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
  • [openbox] Debian packages available   Peter Chiocchetti
    • [openbox] Debian packages available   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] Debian packages available   Mads Martin Joergensen
    • [openbox] Debian packages available   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
• Trouble Installing   Jason Dempsey
  • [openbox] Trouble Installing   Ben Jansens
    • [openbox] Trouble Installing   Jason Dempsey
      • [openbox] Trouble Installing   Jason Dempsey
      • [openbox] Trouble Installing   Peter Chiocchetti
      • [openbox] Trouble Installing   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] Trouble Installing   Jason Dempsey
• Found Problem but now another one....   Jason Dempsey
  • [openbox] Found Problem but now another one....   Ilkka Pajari
  • [openbox] Found Problem but now another one....   David Barr
    • [openbox] Found Problem but now another one....   Jason Dempsey
• unable to move mplayer control window with alt+mouse   Mike
• OpenBox For Slack!!!   Jason Dempsey
  • [openbox] OpenBox For Slack!!!   Eustaquio Rangel de Oliveira J
  • [openbox] OpenBox For Slack!!!   Eustaquio Rangel de Oliveira J
• [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-rc1   Ben Jansens
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-rc1   Mike
    • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-rc1   Ben Jansens
  • Openbox-3.0-rc1 Debian packages   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-rc1   Peter Chiocchetti
    • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-rc1   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-rc1   David Barr
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-rc1   Peter Chiocchetti
    • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-rc1   Mike
    • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-rc1   Ben Jansens
      • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] Openbox-3.0-rc1   Mike
• [ANNOUNCE] ObConf-1.5   Ben Jansens
  • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf-1.5   Andy Holmes
    • [openbox] [ANNOUNCE] ObConf-1.5   Ben Jansens
• Focusing and Raising   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
  • [openbox] Focusing and Raising   Mikael Magnusson
    • [openbox] Focusing and Raising   Mikael Magnusson
      • [openbox] Focusing and Raising   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
      • [openbox] Focusing and Raising   Mikael Magnusson
    • [openbox] Focusing and Raising   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
  • [openbox] Focusing and Raising   Ben Jansens
    • [openbox] Focusing and Raising   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
• RedHat 9 RC1 RPM file   Eustaquio Rangel de Oliveira J
• New windows without decoration   Michael Scherer
• one more time: focus follows mouse   Peter Chiocchetti
  • [openbox] one more time: focus follows mouse   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
  • [openbox] one more time: focus follows mouse   Ben Jansens
• Menu confusion   Tom
  • [openbox] Menu confusion   Peter Chiocchetti
    • [openbox] Menu confusion   Tom
• rc1 ... what happened to menu.xml and rc.xml???????   Robert Upshall
• man pages ....   Robert Upshall
  • [openbox] man pages ....   t3xplri02 at sneakemail.com
• obconf small patch...   Riccardo Persichetti
  • [openbox] obconf small patch...   Marcelo Ramos
• wire window resize?   Mike
• window move popup?   Mike
  • [openbox] window move popup?   Mike

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