[quake3] Greetings

[Christopher Bunting]

Mods developed for the Q3 engine used to be one thing. No engine licensing
applied for anyone creating even a total conversion mod.

But I was told years ago when I was interested in licensing the Q3 engine
for a project a few friends and I were doing, we asked a bunch of questions
about what actually fell under the "Need a license terms" and I
was originally told that any game being offered as a whole built on top of
the q3 engine or any deriv still required a license. It's also stated here,
http://www.idsoftware.com/business/technology/techlicense.php

But what I was told would mean that Tremulous, World of Padman, Urban
Terror and so on would still need a valid Q3 Engine License. When you think
about it, those are all games built on top of the Quake 3 engine or ioQuake3
but it is still the Q3 engine. I'm guessing ID doesn't much care because
they don't outright make money off of them. But still, years ago, any game
being released whether free or not still required a license.

But as I mentioned, I guess ID has a different take now of free games
as opposed to what their Q3 Engine Licensing states.

Just my thoughts on this,
Chris

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:30 PM, <monk at rq3.com> wrote:

> In a situation like that, it would only apply if the mod would only run on
> ioq3.  i.e. if the mod DEPENDED on ioq3 to function.  If the mod
> functioned just as fine with either the original quake 3 or with ioq3,
> then it wouldn't need to be forced under a GPL license.
>
> There have been some grumblings about whether or not you can use anything
> from the old q3 mod sdk, too, because that apparently wasn't released
> under the GPL and mods that use that code are technically incompatible
> with GPL'ed things.  Or something to that effect.
>
> I used to delve into this junk a few years ago and had some clarification
> (though not a whole lot) from id on some GPL-related questions (like the
> bot files).  It's been a while since I've gone section by section through
> the GPL.  That's not a bad thing, either.
>
> Monk.
>
> > I think you would have to prove that you did not use any GPL'd code for
> > that
> > undertaking. Something that is pretty much impossible, since you'd at
> > least
> > be using the engine's public headers to get access to its services, i.e.
> > g_public, cg_public, etc. ...
> >
> > Stephan
>
>
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