[openbox] menu.xml - I thought It Only Had One Format/Standard?

Wed Aug 14 22:15:04 EDT 2013

You're talking Chinese to me hehe, that's sort of the point to my ranting
on, having one menu for all, but now I realize that's not how it works...

So I don't know what these are you are explaining?

pop up a root-menu with a ShowMenu action?
Whatever menus you define, you can pop up?

Hmm my attachment gone? Let me add it again and by the way with the
<execute></execute> syntax instead of <command></command> it does validate,
but still better to change them all to command?

THANKS

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Dana Jansens <dana at orodu.net> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Das <dasfox at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Dana,
>>
>> Here's some of the confusion I saw, look at that new menu_test.xml I
>> attached.
>>
>
> Missed the attachment.
>
>
>> The entire <menu id="root-menu" label="Openbox 3"> section is gone...
>>
>
> If there's no root-menu, then you can't pop up a root-menu with a ShowMenu
> action. Whatever menus you define, you can pop up. The menu language is not
> overly constrained so that people can write nice things like pipe menus
> that generate menus.
>
>
>>
>> This is like one thing I'm getting at and then the original uses these
>> tags;
>>
>> <command></command>
>>
>> And this new one is using instead;
>>
>> <execute></execute>
>>
>
> http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#Execute says "<execute> is a
> deprecated name for <command>", and the menu.xml included in openbox uses
> <command> everywhere, no?
>
>
>>
>> I don't know I guess it might just be me, but seeing an entire section
>> removed then the syntax different I think is confusing to have in a Window
>> Manager, maybe I just haven't gotten use to it is all...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Dana Jansens <dana at orodu.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Das <dasfox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Dana,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry if I've created some confusion, its not about learning XML, I was
>>>> just thinkng of this from the stand point I guess as a new user coming into
>>>> this....
>>>>
>>>> So maybe I'm just thinking about this all wrong and when anyone sees a
>>>> .xml file they just need to know and learn that anything goes as long as
>>>> it's validated XML, then make whatever you feel like...
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's not really make whatever you feel like. The format just allows you
>>> to define a <menu> inline or somewhere else, and you can refer to the menu
>>> to insert it into other menus as many times as you please. If the docs are
>>> not clear I'd love improvements there.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I guess I was looking at it like HTML, like how many ways can you
>>>> really make a hyper link or hotlink, seems like in some code you can only
>>>> do things one or two ways, so I guess I was thinking the same for the
>>>> menu.xml like that was really the only way in which to create this type of
>>>> thing/syntax....
>>>>
>>>> Thanks...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Dana Jansens <dana at orodu.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Das <dasfox at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Great thanks, now we're getting somewhere! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok again, this is what I meant by a standard, I'm attaching a file
>>>>>> menu_test.xml so as to not confuse the name with another menu.xml...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since this is XML I guess now that I've had some time to consider it,
>>>>>> as long as you make the XML syntax correct anything will work, so I'm no
>>>>>> XML pro, how many ways then does that leave use to be able to create a menu?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was all I meant by making the menu a standard so it's only
>>>>>> written one way, so as to not confuse end-users across different distros,
>>>>>> or menu making applications, etc., when they come across many various
>>>>>> formats as I've now seen and then people are scratching their heads
>>>>>> wondering what's going on, because I'm not familiar with any desktops or
>>>>>> other Window Managers that allow for a menu to be coded in many different
>>>>>> syntax ways...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't want to learn how to write XML I'd recommend
>>>>> http://obmenu.sourceforge.net/. There's no need to learn this stuff
>>>>> for making menus.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Xyne <xyne at archlinux.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Das wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >I think you need to LOOK HARDER at the menu.xml in the source
>>>>>>> >...
>>>>>>> >so pelase don't patronize people
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> no comment
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ><menu id="apps-accessories-menu" label="Accessories">
>>>>>>> ><separator/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have placed the separator in the definition of the accessories
>>>>>>> menu, so it
>>>>>>> appears in the accessories menu. According to your previous posts,
>>>>>>> you want the
>>>>>>> separator to appear after the accessories menu, *in the root menu*,
>>>>>>> so you
>>>>>>> should place it there:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <menu id="root-menu" label="Openbox 3">
>>>>>>>   <separator label="Applications" />
>>>>>>>   <menu id="apps-accessories-menu"/>
>>>>>>>   <separator/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have attached an updated version of your file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Xyne
>>>>>>>
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