[cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC

RaBBiT rabbit at 4mori.biz
Tue Oct 20 16:04:44 EDT 2009


Well they can drop it then. No way I'm playing a console game on my PC.I have the eggbox for that.
I'll preorder borderlands with the money saved from mw2, it's getting good reviews :D
I'll also setup more cod4 and waw servers since most of us will play there.
Rabbit
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Caleb Stephens 
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  Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC


  They won't screw this up again if the response is appropriate.


  If PC guys don't buy this game, and the COD4 numbers hold, then I think they'll have the test case to a) release a dedi or b) just drop PC all together.








  On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:31 PM, RaBBiT <rabbit at 4mori.biz> wrote:

    I've always wanted to move to Valve, but only the real COD community can make a real source mod that feels like a cod game.
    Btw a PC game like cod or coduo...
    Time will tell, i'll be glad to map on that project.
    Otherwise DICE might make the GOTY on PC with BFBC2.

    PS: What about Treyarch? will they screw things up next year?

    Rabbit
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      Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:27 PM
      Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC


      I say that a group of community modders and mappers gets together and starts a "source" mod.  Call it MW2:Source or something like that.

      Make it badass and build it off the source engine.  Make the maps exactly like in MW2, models and all.  Then for a map pack make the stock cod4 maps/models and so on.

      What do you all say....

      Wizz


      On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman <iam8up at gmail.com> wrote:

        Did anyone think that maybe they're trying to take away Halo 3 players?

        On 10/20/09, Lars Vik <lars at 3056.net> wrote:
        > Hi,
        >
        > I have both xbox 360 and PS3, but use the consoles mainly for ...well...
        > console games. Like racing games, Rockband etc. But is it really
        > possible to play FPS on console? I have tried misc FPS demos and so on,
        > but I find it hopeless. Clearly, if the majority of CoD players are on
        > console, i must have missed something? I.e. can you get keyboard/mouse
        > to xbox 360? They aren't seriously using the hand controller/joystick?
        >
        > I am also a bit surprised IW are selling more of a FPS game to console
        > than to PC. I can't help but thing that I am getting old or something
        > like that. That I am out of the loop so to speak.
        >
        > Hmmm....
        >
        > John Kennington wrote:
        >> There was a group of modders that tried that and succeeded, somewhat.
        >> Red Oktober is a mod and is a decent game, however it is far to
        >> realistic for the casual player.
        >>
        >> John
        >>
        >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:49 PM, escapedturkey
        >> <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
        >> <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>> wrote:
        >>
        >>     Tough to say. I think the mod community, if combining forces, can
        >>     make any game engine or mod run better, faster, and more fun.
        >>     Faith in the community. For open-source, my vote goes to:
        >>     http://xreal-project.net -- based on IOQuake3.
        >>
        >>     However, even IOQuake3 will do:
        >>
        >>     http://ioquake3.org
        >>
        >>     Enuff of my rambling ...
        >>
        >>     Martin H wrote:
        >>
        >>         Problem with the source engine is its not so good at making a
        >>         game like CoD, of all the mods i've played to date the only
        >>         one that had potential imo was Insurgency. Which although fun,
        >>         didnt come close to the gameplay of CoD
        >>
        >>         I just dont think the source engine is cut out for a game like
        >>         cod. come to think of it though, i cant think of anything that
        >>         is...
        >>
        >>         One of the gripes i have with the system they intend on using
        >>         is, if the matchmaking system always puts you against people
        >>         at your skill level, how is a player meant to progress? i've
        >>         always found the best way to improve is to be subjected to
        >>         repeated raping. If IWNet dumps you with players on your
        >>         level, you just wont improve.
        >>
        >>         It says its done on "skill level". How is a skill level
        >>         determined? Average KD ratio? if thats the case, players will
        >>         be flying up and down the skill rankings every time they have
        >>         a bad/good day. If a player is doing particularly well on a
        >>         certain day, their KD ratio would increase. But the next day,
        >>         if they're back to 'normal' levels, they'll be way out of
        >>         their depth. Or vice versa. quite easy to have a bad day, and
        >>         then find yourself on a server with people way below your
        >>         actual skill rating.
        >>
        >>         "The biggest benefit of using IWnet by far is the fact that
        >>         you don’t have to worry about joining a server full of
        >>         aim-bots, wallhacks, or cheaters. Or relying on the server
        >>         admin of the server to constantly be monitoring, banning, and
        >>         policing it."
        >>
        >>         Yeah, thats great until theres an admin that isnt 100% clued
        >>         up on banning people, and theres a guy on the server who's
        >>         name is changing every two seconds. Its going to be no
        >>         different than a CoD4 server in reality.
        >>
        >>         Surely the better way to get rid of cheating would be to seal
        >>         up all the holes that allow these hacks to be created in the
        >>         first place?
        >>
        >>         2009/10/20 Joker{eXtreme+} <joker at mycallofduty.com
        >>         <mailto:joker at mycallofduty.com> <mailto:joker at mycallofduty.com
        >>         <mailto:joker at mycallofduty.com>>>
        >>
        >>
        >>            Another post by Bowling
        >>            http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745
        >>
        >>            ~Joker
        >>
        >>
        >>            ----- Original Message ----- From: "escapedturkey"
        >>            <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
        >>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>
        >>            <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
        >>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>>>
        >>
        >>
        >>            To: "Call of Duty server admin list." <cod at icculus.org
        >>         <mailto:cod at icculus.org>
        >>            <mailto:cod at icculus.org <mailto:cod at icculus.org>>>
        >>
        >>            Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:06 AM
        >>
        >>            Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on
        >>         the PC
        >>
        >>
        >>            Best thing to do is start with the mod makers in that first
        >>         interview.
        >>            Have them get together with a single purpose "make or mod an
        >>            alternative".
        >>
        >>            Valve offers great support:
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >> http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Building_Mods_with_Valve_Technology
        >>
        >>            :)
        >>
        >>            Bong-Master wrote:
        >>
        >>                broken record Lmfto no just a long record lol any how,
        >>         how &
        >>                were do you
        >>                start ?
        >>                --------------------------------------------------
        >>                From: "escapedturkey" <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
        >>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>
        >>                <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
        >>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>>>
        >>
        >>                Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:55 PM
        >>                To: "Call of Duty server admin list." <cod at icculus.org
        >>         <mailto:cod at icculus.org>
        >>                <mailto:cod at icculus.org <mailto:cod at icculus.org>>>
        >>
        >>                Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2
        >>         on the PC
        >>
        >>                    Exactly. I don't see why this can't be done via the
        >>         Source
        >>                    engine or
        >>                    other means. All the weapons, game play, and such
        >>         can be
        >>                    replicated.
        >>
        >>                    Valve shows a lot of support, has VAC, dedicated Linux
        >>                    binares, etc.
        >>
        >>                    Anyhow, I am sounding like a broken record. :)
        >>
        >>                    Hannu Kumpeli wrote:
        >>
        >>                        Lets put the money together from the 100,000+
        >>         signatures
        >>                        and let some
        >>                        company make us the game we want with DEDI
        >>         SUPPORT :D
        >>
        >>                            Let's go open-source or Source engine! :)
        >>
        >>                            As I listened to the interview most of the
        >>         people
        >>                            talking were
        >>                            modders. Can't they all come together and do a
        >>                            Source mod or open
        >>                            source project?
        >>
        >>                            I'm sure a Source engine mod would work
        >>         quite well.
        >>
        >>                            Source and open-source aren't the same, for
        >>         anyone
        >>                            confused. :)
        >>
        >>                            Joker{eXtreme+} wrote:
        >>
        >>                                Confirmation that they are still NOT
        >>         going to
        >>                                put in Dedi Server
        >>                                support.
        >>
        >>                                I'm done.  Thank you all and have a
        >>         good life.
        >>
        >>                                ~Joker
        >>
        >>
        >>                                ----- Original Message ----- From:
        >>         "Einar S. Idsø"
        >>                                <einar.cod at norsk-esport.no
        >>         <mailto:einar.cod at norsk-esport.no>
        >>                                <mailto:einar.cod at norsk-esport.no
        >>         <mailto:einar.cod at norsk-esport.no>>>
        >>
        >>                                To: "Call of Duty server admin list."
        >>                                <cod at icculus.org
        >>         <mailto:cod at icculus.org> <mailto:cod at icculus.org
        >>         <mailto:cod at icculus.org>>>
        >>
        >>                                Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:32 AM
        >>                                Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent,
        >>         Modern
        >>                                Warfare 2 on the PC
        >>
        >>
        >>                                Just out: Official Infinity Ward
        >>         response to
        >>                                #MW2 PC players
        >>
        >>
        >> http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/10/20/modern-warfare-2-dedicated-server-response.aspx
        >>
        >>
        >>                                Cheers,
        >>                                Einar
        >>
        >>                                On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:12 PM,
        >>         escapedturkey
        >>                                <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
        >>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>
        >>                                <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
        >>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>>> wrote:
        >>
        >>                                    Wouldn't it best to offer both?
        >>
        >>                                    IW.net and dedicated servers as an
        >>         option?
        >>
        >>                                    That way they can see by the statistics
        >>                                    which is the preferred
        >>                                    mode of game
        >>                                    play.
        >>
        >>                                    Schlup wrote:
        >>
        >>                                        Yes fake, was there really any
        >>         doubt?
        >>
        >>                                        -----Original Message-----
        >>                                        From: Mavrick
        >>
        >>          [mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com
        >>         <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com>
        >>
        >>          <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com
        >>         <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com>>] Sent:
        >>                                        Tuesday,
        >>                                        October 20,
        >>                                        2009 7:42 AM
        >>                                        To: Call of Duty server admin list.
        >>                                        Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have
        >>         to vent,
        >>                                        Modern Warfare 2 on the PC
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >> http://www.a2kclan.com/blog.htm?a=&nid=407927B7-640B-49AE-AD32-B162A0A3049E
        >>
        >> <http://www.a2kclan.com/blog.htm?a=&nid=407927B7-640B-49AE-AD32-B162A0A3049E>
        >>
        >>
        >> <http://www.a2kclan.com/blog.htm?a=&nid=407927B7-640B-49AE-AD32-B162A0A3049E
        >>
        >> <http://www.a2kclan.com/blog.htm?a=&nid=407927B7-640B-49AE-AD32-B162A0A3049E>>
        >>
        >>
        >>                                        fake?
        >>
        >>                                        Richard GrosJean wrote:
        >>
        >>                                            120k signatures to go until it
        >>                                            reaches the famed Starcraft
        >>         2 LAN
        >>                                            petition
        >>                                            status.
        >>
        >>                                            On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at
        >>         8:21 AM,
        >>                                            Mavrick Master
        >>                                            <mavrick.master at gmail.com
        >>         <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com>
        >>
        >>          <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com
        >>         <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com>>
        >>
        >>          <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com
        >>         <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com>
        >>
        >>          <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com
        >>         <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com>>>>
        >>                                            wrote:
        >>
        >>                                            84884 Total Signatures and
        >>         counting...
        >>
        >>                                            **grabs another popcorn**
        >>
        >>
        >>
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