[lokisetup] more menuitem voodoo

Sean Middleditch elanthis at awesomeplay.com
Sat Apr 5 18:18:49 EST 2003

On Sat, 2003-04-05 at 18:13, John Quigley wrote:
> I found that when I ran setup on my gentoo box, I couldn't get KDE menuitems 
> to show up when I ran the installer as myself or as root.
> For my user, the problem was that some other installer (looks like openoffice) 
> had created a ~/.kde2 directory, which setup was using for the menuitems.  
> But, my version of kde (3.1.1) only looks in ~/.kde, not ~/.kde2.  So I 
> changed setup to look for .kde first, then kde2 and kde3
> For root, the problem was the /usr/share/gnome/apps in the RedHat 
> configuration.  This directory exists on my system, so setup put the 
> menuitems in there (and then did not install any more items, since a 
> successful redhat is supposed to take care of everything).  So naturally this 
> didn't show up on my KDE menu.  I fixed this by removing 
> /usr/share/gnome/apps from redhat (its is also in the Gnome configuration, so 
> that should take care of it in non-redhat cases).

Dropping modern .desktop files in /usr/share/applications works for both
GNOME2 and KDE(3?), as it's part of the new FreeDesktop.org standards. 
I haven't followed Setup development lately, so forgive if this is a
dumb question - you guys *are* keeping up to date with those standards
where possible, yes?

Another thing Setup might want is to have the installer use a suffix
like .install or something.  Then, GNOME/KDE can drop a MIME item for
.install telling it to invoke it with /bin/sh or whatnot, even without
the executable bit set, so download-and-install in graphical
environments doesn't require low-level UNIX permissions knowledge.  Just
download, and click.  ^,^

Another thing it would be nice to see is have a copy of the install
installed globally on the system.  That way, if a new version of SEtup
comes out with bug fixes or whatnot, that version will be run instead of
the older/buggier version on install CD's or whatnot.  That would of
course require a strict spec/standard on the install data formats to
ensure forwards compatibility (with spec revisions for new features, of

Anyways, sorry for intruding.  ^,^

> Attached is a patch which fixes these problems for me.  Really hope that 
> someday everybody uses one desktop menuitem convention (or even a few 
> _standard_ conventions).  Ha.
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