[Gtkradiant] Halflife 2 Support

Timothee Besset ttimo at idsoftware.com
Sat Nov 20 11:44:09 CST 2004

Lo all,

As Hydra already knows, the ID_LICENSE file is a bit outdated, and doesn't mention any of the other games we already support, like RTCW/ET/JKII/JA etc. etc. and of course HL1. That's not reason enough to not investigate support for HL2. The main thing to remember about GtkRadiant is that it is open source, but it is not free software. The source is available under a proprietary License (well, at least the editor core is), and GtkRadiant can be freely used for non-commercial projects. For any commercial use, you'd have to get a License from id.

As far as HL1 support in GtkRadiant, I have a very mixed feeling about it. While Hydra did a good chunk of work setting it up in the first place, he hasn't really been maintaining any of it afterwards. tbh, I don't know how much of the HL support works in the 'stable' 1.4 release. And my guess would be that it's just not working at all in 1.5 ( Spog? ).

I'd rather have fewer games supported, but have that done well. If Spog is cool with it, there's no problem experimenting with Source engine support. Anyone interested should contact Hydra I guess. And most of the discussion should happen on this list or on the IRC channel so everyone can be kept up to date.


On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 15:30:03 -0000
<mailinglist.qeradiant at hydras-world.com> wrote:

> Ok, so I've got Halflife 2 (not actually played HL2 yet mind you - just
> CS:Source, but I've got it) and CS:Source is way c00l.
> Now I know GtkRadiant is primarily ID software technology focused but the
> go-ahead to include HL1 support was given and was done by me (well, not
> quite done, the todo list was left rather large, but still, it worked) and I
> was wondering what the powers that be would say to the prospect of HL2
> engine support for the editor?
> I know lots of people are clamouring for the support, a quick check of
> #qeradiant reveals at least 4 people who want it, and I think that striking
> while the iron is hot would also be good for GtkRadiant itself - lots of
> people getting HL2, announcing upcoming support at this time would be great.
> Now there's still lots of unknowns at this time, but HL1 used the Hammer
> editor and so does HL2 and from a quick glance it remains largely the same -
> no wonder HL2 took so long to make if they had to use Hammer ;) hehe.
> Anyway, jesting aside I still have to check lots of HL2 engine related stuff
> out.
> A quick list of the basic things that need to be done are:
> Valve Map Files (.vmf) map support ORDXF Import Valve Material File (.vmt)
> support (textures) Support for Model Files Support for Cache Files (.gcf) -
> these containl all the textures, models, etc.  They're like wad/pk3 files,
> they don't appear to be encrypted and contain plaintext.
> Stuff that's already done:
> Entity Definition (.fgd) support
> GtkRadiant core support for multiple games
> When that's done I guess we'll be able to load a map up and have a look
> round, after that we'll suck and see.
> If anyone could provide me with any information related to the various file
> formats I would be very grateful.
> Also, if anyone wants to help out with this little project please let me
> know (as I've not got as much time these days).
> I really would love to see GtkRadiant support HL2 and I'm very keen to get
> this up and running so I can start making some maps for CS:Source - so, so,
> so many ideas running around in my head right now!
> Thanks, 
> Dominic Clifton / Hydra
> P.s. Also of note, but not directly related to this, is that I recently
> built a Dual Xeon 2.8ghz 800FSB server and got hosting for it in a
> Datacenter in the heart of London's communications hub in docklands and thus
> have my own server on the net that can run any games I like, so I'm well up
> for hosting a custom maps server for CS:Source and Doom 3.  It's already
> running CS:CZ and CS:Source, check out www.WeAreDirty.com for details.
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