[cod] PunkBuster ?

[Escaped Turkey]

Good point.

It'd probably require a new registration system.

When a player enters, an Admin Bot will request every so many seconds:
"Please login or register." and provide instructions on how to do so, with
appropriate help screens.

Password masked in case of mistyped commands and with help functions such
as forgot the password, validation, admin contact info, etc.

The process would be something like: Player joins the server. Admin Bot
gives a repeating a message to register or login. The player logs in via
e-mail address and password. If the person fails to login/register within
so much time, he/she is warned to do so in so many seconds or minutes, and
then kicked out if he/she fails. If he/she does it several times, the
player is auto IP/GUID banned with a message saying how to appeal the ban -
where the administrator can provide optional contact information (e-mail
address, forum link, etc.)

There also might be a way to force the person into a muted spectator mode
if he/she doesn't login or register instead of kicking the person.

I suppose an admin bot modification system like this could be applied to
all the older Quake 3 engine games to bring them up to date for better
administration - including open-source variations.

Anyhow. It's a pity see these old Q3 engine games fade into the past. Such
a great game engine and so many fun memories. *sniff*


On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 1:55 PM Jorgen Phillips <jorgenphillips at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I’ve been on this mailing list for years, but this is the first activity
> I’ve seen on it. Crazy how that works. Does anyone actually run COD servers
> these days? I remember cod4, BigBrotherBot, DPMaster, and all the fixings.
> The real good times...
>
> Anyways, punkbuster support has been gone from old CODs for years now. I’d
> be surprised if it actually still works at finding the cheats back in it’s
> day, since I’m not sure if it requires some sort of master server.
>
> The critique I have with your idea is that these games are so old that I
> believe you can spoof the player GUID. You’d have to ban by IP, but that
> also is not very foolproof (albeit more work to change).
>
>
> On Nov 2, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Escaped Turkey <escapedturkey at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I've always thought the best anti-cheat method would be an admin
> modification that tracks players' performance and if a player exceeds x y z
> skill thresholds, the admin(s) would be alerted - perhaps with a recording
> of the player's session - for evaluation.
>
> It could also include a complaint submission system for players with an
> optional recording of the accused's gameplay vs. voting to kick a player
> off the server which tends to interrupt a game session.
>
> For example:
>
> Instead of voting to kick a "Bad Player"
>
> .. /complain "Bad Player"
>
> The modification asks what your complaint is (if the text is empty):
>
> The accuser enters:
>
> "Wallhacking."
> "Auto-aim."
> "Spamming."
> "Spying for the other team. "
>
> It could have a customizable drop menu of choices for expediting.
>
> The system sends the complaint with an optional recording (enabled in the
> server configuration) to admin(s) for evaluation.
>
> Thus, it would be an interactive and community-based anti-cheat system and
> could also be used for evaluating complaints of trolling-like behaviors.
>
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:40 AM Morpheus <morpheus at clantoc.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've never seen a package that helped "custom" installation of
> unsuported punkbuster files. I've also never seen the autoupdate feature
> to work on any cod2 installation I had to do (say, update punkbuster
> files with the version the server provides and uses). My own experience
> the last time we organized an event to play with old friends is that
> Punkbuster was disabled as many were kiked out from the server and no
> one really managed to get it working flawlessly anymore.
>
> For hacks that won't be detected, even punkbuster was not perfect when
> maintained, so I guess with many years having passed without support,
> the list of undetected malwares have grown also. In the same time
> bastards writing this kind of software switched their attention on more
> recent and growingly popular titles, with a yearly new game in the CoD
> Franchise, and the engine not seeing much changes, working on a 10+
> year-old game is not "bankable".
>
> Even when supported, I saw that "cheater" claims all the time on public
> servers, regardless the servers were cracked or not. All the time, to
> the last CoD title I played online, BlackOps 2. So if your players are
> so paranoid, I guess they should better stop playing completely online...
>
>
> Le 01/11/2018 à 13:59, Håvard Pedersen a écrit :
> > Are there still people on this list that run servers? What are your
> experience with PunkBuster?
> >
> > EvenBalance has dropped CoD1 years ago, and I've resorted to creating a
> small info page for our clan at
> http://brothersinarms.be/content/16-punkbuster-problems for doing manual
> updating of PunkBuster. But it's not optimal. Has anyone made an all-in-one
> installer for doing this automatically?
> >
> > And are there many hacks out there that won't be detected? Some of the
> players on my server are pretty paranoid and claim everyone that beats them
> is cheating. :)
> >
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