[cod] PunkBuster ?

Jorgen Phillips jorgenphillips at gmail.com
Fri Nov 2 16:43:40 EDT 2018


I’ve been on this mailing list for years, but this is the first activity I’ve seen on it. Crazy how that works. Does anyone actually run COD servers these days? I remember cod4, BigBrotherBot, DPMaster, and all the fixings.  The real good times...

Anyways, punkbuster support has been gone from old CODs for years now. I’d be surprised if it actually still works at finding the cheats back in it’s day, since I’m not sure if it requires some sort of master server. 

The critique I have with your idea is that these games are so old that I believe you can spoof the player GUID. You’d have to ban by IP, but that also is not very foolproof (albeit more work to change).  


> On Nov 2, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Escaped Turkey <escapedturkey at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've always thought the best anti-cheat method would be an admin modification that tracks players' performance and if a player exceeds x y z skill thresholds, the admin(s) would be alerted - perhaps with a recording of the player's session - for evaluation.
> 
> It could also include a complaint submission system for players with an optional recording of the accused's gameplay vs. voting to kick a player off the server which tends to interrupt a game session.
> 
> For example:
> 
> Instead of voting to kick a "Bad Player" 
> 
> .. /complain "Bad Player"
> 
> The modification asks what your complaint is (if the text is empty):
> 
> The accuser enters:
> 
> "Wallhacking."
> "Auto-aim."
> "Spamming." 
> "Spying for the other team. "
> 
> It could have a customizable drop menu of choices for expediting.
> 
> The system sends the complaint with an optional recording (enabled in the server configuration) to admin(s) for evaluation.
> 
> Thus, it would be an interactive and community-based anti-cheat system and could also be used for evaluating complaints of trolling-like behaviors.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:40 AM Morpheus <morpheus at clantoc.org <mailto:morpheus at clantoc.org>> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've never seen a package that helped "custom" installation of 
> unsuported punkbuster files. I've also never seen the autoupdate feature 
> to work on any cod2 installation I had to do (say, update punkbuster 
> files with the version the server provides and uses). My own experience 
> the last time we organized an event to play with old friends is that 
> Punkbuster was disabled as many were kiked out from the server and no 
> one really managed to get it working flawlessly anymore.
> 
> For hacks that won't be detected, even punkbuster was not perfect when 
> maintained, so I guess with many years having passed without support, 
> the list of undetected malwares have grown also. In the same time 
> bastards writing this kind of software switched their attention on more 
> recent and growingly popular titles, with a yearly new game in the CoD 
> Franchise, and the engine not seeing much changes, working on a 10+ 
> year-old game is not "bankable".
> 
> Even when supported, I saw that "cheater" claims all the time on public 
> servers, regardless the servers were cracked or not. All the time, to 
> the last CoD title I played online, BlackOps 2. So if your players are 
> so paranoid, I guess they should better stop playing completely online...
> 
> 
> Le 01/11/2018 à 13:59, Håvard Pedersen a écrit :
> > Are there still people on this list that run servers? What are your experience with PunkBuster?
> >
> > EvenBalance has dropped CoD1 years ago, and I've resorted to creating a small info page for our clan at http://brothersinarms.be/content/16-punkbuster-problems <http://brothersinarms.be/content/16-punkbuster-problems> for doing manual updating of PunkBuster. But it's not optimal. Has anyone made an all-in-one installer for doing this automatically?
> >
> > And are there many hacks out there that won't be detected? Some of the players on my server are pretty paranoid and claim everyone that beats them is cheating. :)
> >
> > --
> > Håvard Pedersen
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