[cod] cod Digest, Vol 8, Issue 36
Caleb Stephens
csteph9 at gmail.com
Sun Oct 18 12:00:45 EDT 2009
Guys - this is a long term M$ grab at GSP hosting fees.
Think about it.
Organize and go to the DOJ.
I'd be very interested to see the agreement between M$ and Acti/IW.
Nobody/company in their right mind would drop support for an entire segement
of the game without some hefty incentive. I wonder where that incentive is
coming from????
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> 1. Re: Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC (Petr Jelinek)
> 2. Re: Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC
> (Richard GrosJean)
> 3. Re: Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:51:43 +0200
> From: Petr Jelinek <pjmodos at seznam.cz>
> Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC
> To: "Call of Duty server admin list." <cod at icculus.org>
> Message-ID: <4ADB2B7F.6030409 at seznam.cz>
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> Christian Gerbrandt napsal(a):
> > I followed the email thread here, and also listened to the webcast.
> > There are some major changes in the way online multiplayer is used for
> MW2.
> > But may I also point you to another game, which made almost the same
> > changes, and is more popular then before?
> >
> > Quake Live
> >
> > I know you can't really compare QL with MW2, but to some extend you can.
> > Id has taken the step, and took their whole gaming experience into the
> > webbrowser.
> > Obviously, you can't host a dedicated Server anymore. That is all done by
> > id.
> > They host everything.
> >
> > The point here is, the community is playing it, a lot.
> > It is played on a professional level in big tournaments.
> >
>
> Not the same, id came to big GSPs (and ISPs with game hosting
> experience) and rented servers from them on which they run/manage/admin QL.
>
> If MW2 has console style system, which would mean users running listen
> servers on their home machine with their home internet connection then
> that's completely different scenario.
>
> --
> Regards
> Petr Jelinek (PJMODOS)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:24:02 +0300
> From: Richard GrosJean <richard.grosjean at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC
> To: "Call of Duty server admin list." <cod at icculus.org>
> Message-ID:
> <136e6bbf0910180824r192f094haa9b57f264174d38 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> You have got a nice ball rolling, sir.
>
> What happens next though? Does Ryan C. Gordon beam down, snap his fingers
> and release Linux bins? :-D
>
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:08 AM, James Landi <jim at landi.net> wrote:
>
> > First let me say that I will not be hosting or releasing any files for
> MW2,
> > With the lack of any response or support from IW or Activision I see no
> > reason to support them with my bandwidth, community or access. Hell
> after
> > my public comments I may not have access to these files anymore, but
> that's
> > fine I can move on to other games and or hobbies rather quickly. Sorry
> > there's no kissing ass on my end.
> >
> > I've already informed my community that MW2 is a "must wait for patch"
> > title and not to pre-order or purchase on day one.
> >
> > Not sure if any GSPs are pre-renting MW2 servers but you should be very
> > careful and watch yourselves. With the lack of any real PC related
> > information, worst then any past Call of Duty title to date, I can only
> feel
> > that we are in for a very bumpy road as well as some very bad headaches.
> > If there's any type of dedicated server in the box, you already know it's
> > going to be Windows only, for god knows how long. That combined with
> > unreleased system specs for the clients means they don't know what or how
> > it's going to run.
> > Then there is this whole rumor about the PC version being delayed. It's
> > been close to 2 weeks now and Activision, IW and or 402 have yet to
> confirm
> > or deny the rumors in public. That can only mean they are trying to
> rush
> > what ever they have out the door. Unfortunately we'll have to pay for
> their
> > rushing a product that unlike past Call of duty titles from IW their
> hearts
> > are not in it this time. Which means for us, a buggy game with many
> > unsolved issues when it's released.
> >
> > With the lack of any information or simply communications from IW in
> > regards to the PC side of this game so close to release, what make anyone
> > think that we'll get the support after the game ships?
> >
> > Sorry for my rant Rudedog out.
> >
> > Jim Landi
> > Rudedog
> > FPSadmin.com
> > Microsoft MVP, Games for Windows
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> Richard GrosJean
> richard.grosjean at gmail.com
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> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:51:52 +0200
> From: "Thomas Toka / www.serverman.de" <webmaster at serverman.de>
> Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC
> To: "Call of Duty server admin list." <cod at icculus.org>
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> He is surely under NDA again or really did not know. Otherwise he would
> have told us.
>
> Kind Regards to all those business guys who planned this disaster:
>
> http://www.coflash.com/stuff/iw.gif
>
> The picture made my day. Usually i dont like this abusive stuff but it
> fits 100% .
>
> ;-)
>
> Richard GrosJean wrote:
> > You have got a nice ball rolling, sir.
> >
> > What happens next though? Does Ryan C. Gordon beam down, snap his
> > fingers and release Linux bins? :-D
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:08 AM, James Landi <jim at landi.net
> > <mailto:jim at landi.net>> wrote:
> >
> > First let me say that I will not be hosting or releasing any files
> > for MW2, With the lack of any response or support from IW or
> > Activision I see no reason to support them with my bandwidth,
> > community or access. Hell after my public comments I may not have
> > access to these files anymore, but that's fine I can move on to
> > other games and or hobbies rather quickly. Sorry there's no
> > kissing ass on my end.
> >
> > I've already informed my community that MW2 is a "must wait for
> > patch" title and not to pre-order or purchase on day one.
> >
> > Not sure if any GSPs are pre-renting MW2 servers but you should be
> > very careful and watch yourselves. With the lack of any real PC
> > related information, worst then any past Call of Duty title to
> > date, I can only feel that we are in for a very bumpy road as well
> > as some very bad headaches.
> > If there's any type of dedicated server in the box, you already
> > know it's going to be Windows only, for god knows how long. That
> > combined with unreleased system specs for the clients means they
> > don't know what or how it's going to run.
> > Then there is this whole rumor about the PC version being delayed.
> > It's been close to 2 weeks now and Activision, IW and or 402 have
> > yet to confirm or deny the rumors in public. That can only mean
> > they are trying to rush what ever they have out the door.
> > Unfortunately we'll have to pay for their rushing a product that
> > unlike past Call of duty titles from IW their hearts are not in it
> > this time. Which means for us, a buggy game with many unsolved
> > issues when it's released.
> >
> > With the lack of any information or simply communications from IW
> > in regards to the PC side of this game so close to release, what
> > make anyone think that we'll get the support after the game ships?
> >
> > Sorry for my rant Rudedog out.
> >
> > Jim Landi
> > Rudedog
> > FPSadmin.com
> > Microsoft MVP, Games for Windows
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