[bf1942] How could DICE agree to this??
Dave Snodgrass
dave at setupahost.net
Wed Feb 16 12:19:08 EST 2005
Joe wrote:
> Yeah, limit the ranking to the official EA noobfest servers. That'll
> do a lot of good.
I'm sure the big issue here is security. How do they tell a legit server
from an illegit server spoofing stats?
>
> If they lock down earning ranks to EA servers only, do they expect
> private server admins to honor those ranks in their config files? Hell no!
They think it will somehow increase EA server sales/rentals.
> They should require that the private servers register with them to
> provide the ranking/stats connection. Register on EA, hell even a
> small monthly fee for 'maintaince' of their ranking backend would be
> perfectly fine especially with some of us larger gaming groups.
Bah humbug. They are going to provide the ranking system free of charge
- They can collate stats from leaf servers free of charge too - Its
still cheaper than running a server :)
However - I would be willing to bind my servers to a credit card number
or some other way of indicating a) age b) legitimacy . Possibly even tie
servers that want to send stat info to EA to my cd-key. If they discover
spoofed data, i agree to allow my cd key (and therefore any ranked users
tied to the key) to be destroyed
>
> It's not even like the official EA servers are well moderated........I
> had high hopes, but all of the news to late is souring that. :(
Well moderated? you should change that to 'Its not like offical ea
servers are moderated at all'
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Steven Hartland [mailto:killing at multiplay.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:32 AM
> *To:* bf1942 at icculus.org
> *Subject:* Re: [bf1942] How could DICE agree to this??
>
> I must say this is concerning. Ranked players is one thing, but
> only enabling rank building on official services is a sure fire way
> to kill the community very quickly.
>
> From reading this I would suggest the following changes:
> 1. Ranking on all servers or at least "registered" servers.
> 2. The ability to turn off racking totally in the server config.
> 3. The ability to enable all weapons in the server config.
> 4. The ability to limit the max rank in the server config.
>
> With the above all quality servers can gain people rank
> and things like public servers can be a level playing
> field, with experienced players only benefiting purely
> from better play and not also getting an unfair advantage
> making the game inaccessible to the new players.
>
> Steve / K
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jon Wolberg <mailto:jon at ecgnetwork.com>
>
> Did anyone else see this interview? A former customer of mine
> showed it to me.
>
> http://www.realityfriends.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=573
>
> All this sounds great, but a few more details have come out
> that are of concern:
> 1. Higher ranks get access to exclusive 'unlock' weapons
> 2. Higher ranks are the default choice for 'commander'
> 3. Only EA servers (offical and those rented from EA) will be
> 'ranking' servers (eg: players can only earn rank when playing
> on EA servers)
> 4. Ranks will still be visible on unranked servers and
> therefore ranked players can get access to the unlocked
> weapons on unranked servers (and potentially a factor in
> determining who is commander)
> 5. Unranked servers can 'turn off' unlockable weapons, but
> cant universally unlock them for all players
>
> As you can imagine this creates a series of issues:
> 1. Inbalance between players with access to unlocked weapons
> and those without (especially for casual gamers or those late
> to the game)
> - plus will regular players on unranked (nonEA) servers get
> have to hand over 'commander mode' to anyone who has a rank
> (which he carried over from the EA servers)
>
> 2. Inbalance between EA servers and private servers (such as
> the ECGN public servers or those rented from ECGN)
> - Are the 'unranked' servers going to become 'ghost towns'?
>
>
> Personally I think giving ranks anything more than bragging
> rights is a mistake (eg: special weapons). And I think only
> providing them on EA servers and EA rented servers is
> blackmail. They did this with Americas Army and it didnt work
> out that well.
>
> thoughts?
>
> Jon
>
>
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