[bf1942] What's happening DICE?

Steven Hartland killing at multiplay.co.uk
Thu Apr 22 18:21:21 EDT 2004


With the original bf1942 we tried running with bfrsm and we had
multiple crashes every day without it it dropped considerably, but
saying that it was with 1.4 bf1942 so this may have changed.

It still remains the fact that with standard maps and no mods
we have around 50 crashes a week.

    Steve / K
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <luke at techfreak.org>
To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?


> I was under the impression there were other admins suffering from
> this crash as well. I guess it could be a corrupt installation. I
> will install again from freshly downloaded files and retest.
> 
> Luke
> 
> 
> > Do you have anything else running on your server?  other game
> > servers, etc...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: luke at techfreak.org [mailto:luke at techfreak.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:40 PM
> > To: bf1942 at icculus.org
> > Subject: RE: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?
> >
> >
> > './start.sh +statusMonitor 1'
> >
> >> When you start your server without bvsrm what command do you use?
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: luke at techfreak.org [mailto:luke at techfreak.org]
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:28 PM
> >> To: bf1942 at icculus.org
> >> Subject: Re: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?
> >>
> >>
> >> Earlier you mentioned you had experienced the same crashing on map
> >> change.... or did I misunderstand?
> >>
> >> Luke
> >>
> >>> Remove bvsrm for a start thats the biggest crash creator there
> >>> is.
> >>>
> >>>     Steve / K
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: <luke at techfreak.org>
> >>> To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:50 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Yeah, I start all my servers within a 'while true' statement,
> >>>> inlcuding just the command line 'bvsrm -start -restart'
> >>>>
> >>>> Other than that, nothing fancy. As I said, worked fine on the
> >>>> 'test'
> >>>> server for days without stop - low ping, smooth play, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> > Luke,
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Do you start the server from a shell script?  What exact
> >>>> commands
> >>>> > are you
> >>>> > using to start the server?  I assume you start it the same on
> >>>> > servers that
> >>>> > have worked and ones that don't, but I'm just curious.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Mike
> >>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> > From: <luke at techfreak.org>
> >>>> > To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
> >>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:31 PM
> >>>> > Subject: Re: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Michael,
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Thanks for the offer to provide details. The trouble with
> >>>> this
> >>>> >> apparent bug is that it seems to crop up on some servers and
> >>>> not
> >>>> >> others - even on Identical machines.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> For instance, I ran a 'test' BFV server for three days
> >>>> straight
> >>>> >> (full most of the day as well), cycling through all maps at
> >>>> 24
> >>>> >> players. Never crashed once. This was a PIV 2.8 running
> >>>> redhat
> >>>> 9.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> So, feeling pretty happy with this game and its stability, I
> >>>> >> duplicate this exact game code to three other boxes and turn
> >>>> em
> >>>> >> loose. Now, two of the four servers crash constantly on map
> >>>> >> change.
> >>>> >> They are all four EXACTLY the same hardware and Linux build.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I thought it was bad ram or something since it seemed to make
> >>>> no
> >>>> >> sense that 50% of my servers would crash and the other would
> >>>> be
> >>>> >> stable...... so I moved one of the faulty ones to another new
> >>>> and
> >>>> >> Identical box. It crashes, too.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> After reading through the forums, it seems to me that there
> >>>> is
> >>>> >> some
> >>>> >> sort of software glitch that is beyond me to diagnose. But,
> >>>> my
> >>>> >> experience tells me that this is not the fault of the Linux
> >>>> build,
> >>>> >> or an incorrect config file. It happens on BSD, Redhat, RH
> >>>> >> enterprise, etc.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Luke
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> > I know this isn't immediately helpful to those with
> >>>> crashes,
> >>>> but
> >>>> >> I
> >>>> >> > run a
> >>>> >> > linux server which cycles through all of the maps and have
> >>>> not
> >>>> >> had a
> >>>> >> > single
> >>>> >> > crash to date.  I've been running the server since the game
> >>>> >> release.
> >>>> >> >  I've
> >>>> >> > run the server on two different machines with no problems
> >>>> >> (besides
> >>>> >> > the lag).
> >>>> >> > If anyone would like to compare notes on configurations or
> >>>> >> system
> >>>> >> > setup I'd
> >>>> >> > be happy to try to help.  Obviously if this is a bug in the
> >>>> >> software
> >>>> >> > there
> >>>> >> > is nothing that we can do, but since the server works fine
> >>>> on
> >>>> >> some
> >>>> >> > platforms
> >>>> >> > it may be related to something else.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Machine 1:
> >>>> >> > P4 2.4Ghz with 1GB Ram
> >>>> >> > Running RedHat
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Machine 2:
> >>>> >> > Dual Xeon 2.4GHz with 1GB Ram
> >>>> >> > Running RedHat.
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Mike
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> >> > From: <luke at techfreak.org>
> >>>> >> > To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
> >>>> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:44 AM
> >>>> >> > Subject: Re: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >> Lightcubed forums are covered with admins asking about
> >>>> this
> >>>> >> >> problem
> >>>> >> >> on BF1942. One recent thred dates to Mid-february:
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> > http://bf1942.lightcubed.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=918&highlight=crash+map+change
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Other forums and lists indicate a much more frequent
> >>>> crashing
> >>>> >> on
> >>>> >> >> map
> >>>> >> >> change in BFV. The game is essentially non-funtioning for
> >>>> most
> >>>> >> >> Linux
> >>>> >> >> admins due to this bug. The few that run it successfully,
> >>>> do
> >>>> so
> >>>> >> >> with
> >>>> >> >> one map.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Take a look at the server listing for BFV - 95% are
> >>>> windows
> >>>> >> >> servers..... I wonder why?
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Luke
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> > Unfortunately not both BF1942 and BFV crash regularly on
> >>>> map
> >>>> >> >> change
> >>>> >> >> > here :(
> >>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> >     Steve / K
> >>>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> >> >> > From: "Steve Getman" <steve at lightcubed.com>
> >>>> >> >> > To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
> >>>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 4:54 PM
> >>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?
> >>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> >> I believe it was fixed in BF1942.  At least my server
> >>>> has
> >>>> >> not
> >>>> >> >> >> crashed in
> >>>> >> >> >> some time.  The code for BFV was branched fairly early
> >>>> on
> >>>> >> and
> >>>> >> >> >> doesn't have
> >>>> >> >> >> all of the fixes merged in (or at least didn't when it
> >>>> was
> >>>> >> >> >> launched.)
> >>>> >> >> >> Andy can speak more intelligently to this than I can...
> >>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> >
> >>>> >> >> >
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