[bf1942] What's happening DICE?

Thu Apr 22 19:38:43 EDT 2004

There are others that suffer the same problem, I see it in the forums 
often. However, our servers under RH9, RH7.3 and RHe have never done it. 
All 4 of our current BF servers have been running without a crash since the 
1.6 upgrade... that's about 3 months now isn't it? Nothing new with 1.6 
really, they have always been that stable.

I did have one instance of the bbo daemon crash with no clean exit or clues 
to why in the log last month but the server stayed up until I shut it down 
to restart bbo.

Rick

At 11:21 PM 4/22/2004 +0100, you wrote:

>With the original bf1942 we tried running with bfrsm and we had
>multiple crashes every day without it it dropped considerably, but
>saying that it was with 1.4 bf1942 so this may have changed.
>
>It still remains the fact that with standard maps and no mods
>we have around 50 crashes a week.
>
>     Steve / K
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <luke at techfreak.org>
>To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
>Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:59 PM
>Subject: RE: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?
>
>
> > I was under the impression there were other admins suffering from
> > this crash as well. I guess it could be a corrupt installation. I
> > will install again from freshly downloaded files and retest.
> >
> > Luke
> >
> >
> > > Do you have anything else running on your server?  other game
> > > servers, etc...
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: luke at techfreak.org [mailto:luke at techfreak.org]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:40 PM
> > > To: bf1942 at icculus.org
> > > Subject: RE: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?
> > >
> > >
> > > './start.sh +statusMonitor 1'
> > >
> > >> When you start your server without bvsrm what command do you use?
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: luke at techfreak.org [mailto:luke at techfreak.org]
> > >> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:28 PM
> > >> To: bf1942 at icculus.org
> > >> Subject: Re: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Earlier you mentioned you had experienced the same crashing on map
> > >> change.... or did I misunderstand?
> > >>
> > >> Luke
> > >>
> > >>> Remove bvsrm for a start thats the biggest crash creator there
> > >>> is.
> > >>>
> > >>>     Steve / K
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: <luke at techfreak.org>
> > >>> To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:50 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Yeah, I start all my servers within a 'while true' statement,
> > >>>> inlcuding just the command line 'bvsrm -start -restart'
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Other than that, nothing fancy. As I said, worked fine on the
> > >>>> 'test'
> > >>>> server for days without stop - low ping, smooth play, etc.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> > Luke,
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Do you start the server from a shell script?  What exact
> > >>>> commands
> > >>>> > are you
> > >>>> > using to start the server?  I assume you start it the same on
> > >>>> > servers that
> > >>>> > have worked and ones that don't, but I'm just curious.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Mike
> > >>>> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> > From: <luke at techfreak.org>
> > >>>> > To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
> > >>>> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:31 PM
> > >>>> > Subject: Re: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >> Michael,
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Thanks for the offer to provide details. The trouble with
> > >>>> this
> > >>>> >> apparent bug is that it seems to crop up on some servers and
> > >>>> not
> > >>>> >> others - even on Identical machines.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> For instance, I ran a 'test' BFV server for three days
> > >>>> straight
> > >>>> >> (full most of the day as well), cycling through all maps at
> > >>>> 24
> > >>>> >> players. Never crashed once. This was a PIV 2.8 running
> > >>>> redhat
> > >>>> 9.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> So, feeling pretty happy with this game and its stability, I
> > >>>> >> duplicate this exact game code to three other boxes and turn
> > >>>> em
> > >>>> >> loose. Now, two of the four servers crash constantly on map
> > >>>> >> change.
> > >>>> >> They are all four EXACTLY the same hardware and Linux build.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> I thought it was bad ram or something since it seemed to make
> > >>>> no
> > >>>> >> sense that 50% of my servers would crash and the other would
> > >>>> be
> > >>>> >> stable...... so I moved one of the faulty ones to another new
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> >> Identical box. It crashes, too.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> After reading through the forums, it seems to me that there
> > >>>> is
> > >>>> >> some
> > >>>> >> sort of software glitch that is beyond me to diagnose. But,
> > >>>> my
> > >>>> >> experience tells me that this is not the fault of the Linux
> > >>>> build,
> > >>>> >> or an incorrect config file. It happens on BSD, Redhat, RH
> > >>>> >> enterprise, etc.
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> Luke
> > >>>> >>
> > >>>> >> > I know this isn't immediately helpful to those with
> > >>>> crashes,
> > >>>> but
> > >>>> >> I
> > >>>> >> > run a
> > >>>> >> > linux server which cycles through all of the maps and have
> > >>>> not
> > >>>> >> had a
> > >>>> >> > single
> > >>>> >> > crash to date.  I've been running the server since the game
> > >>>> >> release.
> > >>>> >> >  I've
> > >>>> >> > run the server on two different machines with no problems
> > >>>> >> (besides
> > >>>> >> > the lag).
> > >>>> >> > If anyone would like to compare notes on configurations or
> > >>>> >> system
> > >>>> >> > setup I'd
> > >>>> >> > be happy to try to help.  Obviously if this is a bug in the
> > >>>> >> software
> > >>>> >> > there
> > >>>> >> > is nothing that we can do, but since the server works fine
> > >>>> on
> > >>>> >> some
> > >>>> >> > platforms
> > >>>> >> > it may be related to something else.
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> > Machine 1:
> > >>>> >> > P4 2.4Ghz with 1GB Ram
> > >>>> >> > Running RedHat
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> > Machine 2:
> > >>>> >> > Dual Xeon 2.4GHz with 1GB Ram
> > >>>> >> > Running RedHat.
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> > Mike
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> >> > From: <luke at techfreak.org>
> > >>>> >> > To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
> > >>>> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:44 AM
> > >>>> >> > Subject: Re: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> Lightcubed forums are covered with admins asking about
> > >>>> this
> > >>>> >> >> problem
> > >>>> >> >> on BF1942. One recent thred dates to Mid-february:
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >
> > >>>> > 
> http://bf1942.lightcubed.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=918&highlight=crash+map+change
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> Other forums and lists indicate a much more frequent
> > >>>> crashing
> > >>>> >> on
> > >>>> >> >> map
> > >>>> >> >> change in BFV. The game is essentially non-funtioning for
> > >>>> most
> > >>>> >> >> Linux
> > >>>> >> >> admins due to this bug. The few that run it successfully,
> > >>>> do
> > >>>> so
> > >>>> >> >> with
> > >>>> >> >> one map.
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> Take a look at the server listing for BFV - 95% are
> > >>>> windows
> > >>>> >> >> servers..... I wonder why?
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> Luke
> > >>>> >> >>
> > >>>> >> >> > Unfortunately not both BF1942 and BFV crash regularly on
> > >>>> map
> > >>>> >> >> change
> > >>>> >> >> > here :(
> > >>>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >     Steve / K
> > >>>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> >> >> > From: "Steve Getman" <steve at lightcubed.com>
> > >>>> >> >> > To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
> > >>>> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 4:54 PM
> > >>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [bf1942] What's happening DICE?
> > >>>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >> I believe it was fixed in BF1942.  At least my server
> > >>>> has
> > >>>> >> not
> > >>>> >> >> >> crashed in
> > >>>> >> >> >> some time.  The code for BFV was branched fairly early
> > >>>> on
> > >>>> >> and
> > >>>> >> >> >> doesn't have
> > >>>> >> >> >> all of the fixes merged in (or at least didn't when it
> > >>>> was
> > >>>> >> >> >> launched.)
> > >>>> >> >> >> Andy can speak more intelligently to this than I can...
> > >>>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >
> > >>>> >> >> >
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