Hi all, If anybody is interested, I have now tied up final my baseq2/xatrix game code for DED deathmatch 1 only servers. This runs very, very fast. http://sourceforge.net/projects/quake2plus/ Nick -- "Person who say it cannot be done should not interrupt person doing it." -Chinese Proverb My quake2 project: http://sourceforge.net/projects/quake2plus/