[openbox] Openbox focus on dualhead system

Jamin W. Collins jcollins at asgardsrealm.net
Sun Sep 26 12:54:04 EDT 2004

On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 01:05:42AM +0000, David Barr wrote:
> On Sat, 2004-09-25 at 13:23 -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > 
> > No, that would be reading something "into" my message, that I didn't
> > write.  As for qouting the part about him trying the other window
> > managers.  Well, um, _I_ did:
> > 
> >    http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24:mss:2971:ngecnbgmjbjnhblddcfj
> > 
> > You'll note that I quoted the entire message just for _that_ reason.
> > Because my response was relevant to his _entire_ message.
> > 
> > It was when David Barr decided to flame me for something I didn't
> > write the relevant section of the original post was removed.
> forgive me for editing down the previous post but i did not mean it to
> be "censorship" - i meant to save space,  but i do not think your
> comment was constructive or valid, however, should the shoe be on the
> other foot; i would consider it "bad form" for a similar comment to be
> made on the blackbox mailing list by an openbox user, do you not
> agree? 

No, I don't agree.  I see it as nothing more than a valid
troubleshooting step.  I know that Blackbox is not the window manager
for everyone, just as Openbox isn't either.  You seem very defensive of
anything that suggests a deficiency in Openbox that may not also exist
in Blackbox (or other window managers) why is that?

> i do not consider your input to be benificial to anyone (let's be
> honest, it is ambiguous at best?) and to be degrading to the 'blackbox
> community' i used blackbox for many years before openbox, i have a lot
> of respect for it. i think blackbox is noble windowmanger and that is
> often misrepresented, at best, by its somewhat stalwart users. 

How was my suggestion in any way "degrading" to Blackbox users?
Blackbox does in fact support Dual Head systems natively.  A single
instance of Blackbox would manage both heads (I've done so many times).
So, again how is suggesting that the OP give Blackbox a shot since it
supports Dual Head well degrading in any way?

> bradley has done some sterling work with it, i am very impressed with
> its develeopment since he has re-started development on it, i wish it
> only the best in the future, i do not believe openbox shares its
> goals.

Who said they shared any goals?

> i hope that in future, as has clearly not been possible in the past,
> that openbox and blackbox can co-exist peacefully (this includes not
> spamming each others mailing lists :).

I still don't see how I in any way "spammed" the Openbox list.  I use
both window managers on different systems of mine.  I am both an Openbox
and Blackbox user and was merely trying to assist another Openbox user
isolate the cause/root of their problem.

Jamin W. Collins

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. --Aldous Huxley,
"Proper Studies", 1927

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