[cod] Off-Topic: The Future of GSPs

Wed Feb 3 11:10:46 EST 2010

Not to be a ass but I certainly hope that GSP's which may or may not include
some of you do not have all their eggs in one basket. If the dedi server
goes by the wayside I would hope that these companies can diversify into
other markets.
They certainly have the equipment and the know-how to do other things. Will
the gsp's have financial ruin? I would think not.
I finally went out and bought mw2 and played it. It is a pain in the ass and
I find myself not playing it that often.
Their "customer"  the pc gamer- is for the most part a bitchy,whiney,child.
I hope they werent betting the farm on them...

It would be fun to see a opensource game platform.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Caleb Stephens <csteph9 at gmail.com> wrote:

> They sold more PC copies than CoD4 too (per what Rob (iw guy) said) ...  I
> blame that on marketing, but I will say almost all clans I knew from COD4
> (from matches & my own clan), all switched to MW2, and we were tracking
> towards mw2 well before all the ads started. we were welcoming it with open
> arms looking for a "better" cod4.   there was some complaining at first, but
> they are all still playing it and matching regularly.
>
> If they cared about game performance, they would have stopped playing (like
> me).  and like the other poster said, they consider themselvs all in the
> same boat, so suck game performance doesn't matter to them.
>
> question, at least in my mind, was never how well mw2 would do, but how
> much brand damage would it do for a follow-on title?  if the p2p model
> didn't work, then gamers would be more hesitant the next round if IW/Trey
> even have a PC title.  but so far, looks like brand damage is none, and now
> it's follow the leader time.
>
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> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Midnight <midowns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  "Activision and IW proved this beyond any reasonable doubt. MW2 attracted
>> MORE players.  Biggest game release in history."
>>
>> There are simply more people with Xbox & Playstation 3 then there was
>> years ago, and a dearth of decent games since Halo.  Of course they are all
>> going to buy what is one of the top games of the year for consoles.  They
>> haven't proved anything more than that the console market is bigger than it
>> used to be.  That and also that console players are noobs who's lack of good
>> ping is dwarfed only by their terrible skils at FPS games so it doesn't
>> matter.
>>
>> Tyson is right, the next MW will likely be only console.  Why bother with
>> 3% of the market at this point?  PCs could have been 40% of the market if
>> they didn't castrate the game.  But you can't tell them that.
>>
>> It is a self fulfillng business decision -> Ruin the game, drive down PC
>> sales, then point to how bad PC sales are so you can just abandon it
>> altogether.
>>
>> Let's face it, the game publishers are greedy and they like how the noob
>> consolers will buy a new game / DLC every week without blinking and then
>> throw it in the corner a week later because it's boring.
>>
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>>
>> Tyson wrote:
>>
>>  Considering only 3% of the total sales for MW2 were PC they didn’t prove
>> anything other than only the hard core PC gamers i.e. twl/cal types actually
>> bought the game for PC and the noobs new to the franchise that don’t know
>> any better.
>>
>>
>>
>> In fact they proved how easy it was to kill the game for PC and make it
>> bigger on a locked in market like the consoles. The next MW will probably
>> only be Console just like Halo at this rate.
>>
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>>
>> Tyson
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>>
>> *From:* Caleb Stephens [mailto:csteph9 at gmail.com <csteph9 at gmail.com>]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:26 PM
>> *To:* Call of Duty server admin list.
>> *Subject:* Re: [cod] Off-Topic: The Future of GSPs
>>
>>
>>
>> >>Only if ppl stop caring about low ping.
>>
>>
>>
>> Activision and IW proved this beyond any reasonable doubt.  MW2 attracted
>> MORE players.  Biggest game release in history.
>>
>>
>>
>> And league sites like TWL saw no dropoff in league interest.  In fact,
>> players are jumping through all kinds of hoops just to play competitively.
>>  It's retarded what they are doing, but they are doing it.  Game doesn't
>> matter.  Behavior persists.
>>
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>> Ping and game performance are the last things on players' minds.  Only the
>> die-hard computer centric geeks care.
>>
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>>
>> ACTI and IW proved this, hard.
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>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Midnight <midowns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Only if ppl stop caring about low ping.  GSP's have multiple Tier1
>> backbone connections and are usually 1ms off the main trunks.  Home
>> connections typically have 10-20ms + first hops and only 1 ISP backbone
>> directly connected.
>>
>> I think the bigger threat to GSP's is the game publishers cutting them out
>> of the mix, to the detriment of their user base.  This will on diminish
>> quality of hosting and increase price.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> escapedturkey wrote:
>>
>> Do you believe GSPs will become obsolete as home bandwidth gets larger and
>> hardware evolves faster and smaller?
>>
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