Not to be a ass but I certainly hope that GSP's which may or may not include some of you do not have all their eggs in one basket. If the dedi server goes by the wayside I would hope that these companies can diversify into other markets.<br>
They certainly have the equipment and the know-how to do other things. Will the gsp's have financial ruin? I would think not.<br>I finally went out and bought mw2 and played it. It is a pain in the ass and I find myself not playing it that often.<br>
Their "customer" the pc gamer- is for the most part a bitchy,whiney,child. I hope they werent betting the farm on them...<br><br>It would be fun to see a opensource game platform. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Caleb Stephens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:csteph9@gmail.com">csteph9@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
They sold more PC copies than CoD4 too (per what Rob (iw guy) said) ... I blame that on marketing, but I will say almost all clans I knew from COD4 (from matches & my own clan), all switched to MW2, and we were tracking towards mw2 well before all the ads started. we were welcoming it with open arms looking for a "better" cod4. there was some complaining at first, but they are all still playing it and matching regularly.<div>
<br></div><div>If they cared about game performance, they would have stopped playing (like me). and like the other poster said, they consider themselvs all in the same boat, so suck game performance doesn't matter to them.</div>
<div><br></div><div>question, at least in my mind, was never how well mw2 would do, but how much brand damage would it do for a follow-on title? if the p2p model didn't work, then gamers would be more hesitant the next round if IW/Trey even have a PC title. but so far, looks like brand damage is none, and now it's follow the leader time.<div>
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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Midnight <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:midowns@gmail.com" target="_blank">midowns@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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"Activision and IW proved this beyond any reasonable doubt. MW2
attracted MORE players. Biggest game release in history."<br>
<br></div>
There are simply more people with Xbox & Playstation 3 then there
was years ago, and a dearth of decent games since Halo. Of course they
are all going to buy what is one of the top games of the year for
consoles. They haven't proved anything more than that the console
market is bigger than it used to be. That and also that console
players are noobs who's lack of good ping is dwarfed only by their
terrible skils at FPS games so it doesn't matter.<br>
<br>
Tyson is right, the next MW will likely be only console. Why bother
with 3% of the market at this point? PCs could have been 40% of the
market if they didn't castrate the game. But you can't tell them
that. <br>
<br>
It is a self fulfillng business decision -> Ruin the game, drive
down PC sales, then point to how bad PC sales are so you can just
abandon it altogether.<br>
<br>
Let's face it, the game publishers are greedy and they like how the
noob consolers will buy a new game / DLC every week without blinking
and then throw it in the corner a week later because it's boring.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Tyson wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Considering
only 3% of the total sales for MW2 were PC they didn’t
prove anything other than only the hard core PC gamers i.e. twl/cal
types
actually bought the game for PC and the noobs new to the franchise that
don’t
know any better.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">In
fact they proved how easy it was to kill the game for PC and
make it bigger on a locked in market like the consoles. The next MW
will
probably only be Console just like Halo at this rate.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Tyson</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Caleb
Stephens
[<a href="mailto:csteph9@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:csteph9@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Call of Duty server admin list.<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cod] Off-Topic: The Future of GSPs</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">>>Only if ppl stop caring about low ping.</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Activision and IW proved this beyond any
reasonable doubt.
MW2 attracted MORE players. Biggest game release in history.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">And league sites like TWL saw no dropoff in
league interest.
In fact, players are jumping through all kinds of hoops just to play
competitively. It's retarded what they are doing, but they are doing
it.
Game doesn't matter. Behavior persists.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ping and game performance are the last things on
players'
minds. Only the die-hard computer centric geeks care.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">ACTI and IW proved this, hard.</p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Midnight <<a href="mailto:midowns@gmail.com" target="_blank">midowns@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Only if ppl stop caring about low ping. GSP's
have
multiple Tier1 backbone connections and are usually 1ms off the main
trunks.
Home connections typically have 10-20ms + first hops and only 1 ISP
backbone directly connected.<br>
<br>
I think the bigger threat to GSP's is the game publishers cutting them
out of
the mix, to the detriment of their user base. This will on diminish
quality of hosting and increase price.</p>
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<br>
<br>
escapedturkey wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Do you believe GSPs
will become
obsolete as home bandwidth gets larger and hardware evolves faster and
smaller?<br>
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