[cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC

Joker{eXtreme+} joker at mycallofduty.com
Tue Oct 20 15:45:28 EDT 2009


NO servers

Each player has the potential of being the Host

~Joker
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  My question as a GSP is, where will be located servers now ? Several servers in each Country ?

  escapedturkey escribió: 
    +1 vote :) 

    Seth Sauls wrote: 

      I say that a group of community modders and mappers gets together and starts a "source" mod.  Call it MW2:Source or something like that. 
        
      Make it badass and build it off the source engine.  Make the maps exactly like in MW2, models and all.  Then for a map pack make the stock cod4 maps/models and so on. 
        
      What do you all say.... 
        
      Wizz 

      On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Josh Luthman <iam8up at gmail.com <mailto:iam8up at gmail.com>> wrote: 

          Did anyone think that maybe they're trying to take away Halo 3 players? 

          On 10/20/09, Lars Vik <lars at 3056.net <mailto:lars at 3056.net>> wrote: 
           > Hi, 
           > 
           > I have both xbox 360 and PS3, but use the consoles mainly for 
          ...well... 
           > console games. Like racing games, Rockband etc. But is it really 
           > possible to play FPS on console? I have tried misc FPS demos and 
          so on, 
           > but I find it hopeless. Clearly, if the majority of CoD players 
          are on 
           > console, i must have missed something? I.e. can you get 
          keyboard/mouse 
           > to xbox 360? They aren't seriously using the hand 
          controller/joystick? 
           > 
           > I am also a bit surprised IW are selling more of a FPS game to 
          console 
           > than to PC. I can't help but thing that I am getting old or something 
           > like that. That I am out of the loop so to speak. 
           > 
           > Hmmm.... 
           > 
           > John Kennington wrote: 
           >> There was a group of modders that tried that and succeeded, 
          somewhat. 
           >> Red Oktober is a mod and is a decent game, however it is far to 
           >> realistic for the casual player. 
           >> 
           >> John 
           >> 
           >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:49 PM, escapedturkey 
           >> <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com 
          <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com> 
           >> <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com 
          <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>>> wrote: 
           >> 
           >>     Tough to say. I think the mod community, if combining 
          forces, can 
           >>     make any game engine or mod run better, faster, and more fun. 
           >>     Faith in the community. For open-source, my vote goes to: 
           >>     http://xreal-project.net <http://xreal-project.net/> -- 
          based on IOQuake3. 
           >> 
           >>     However, even IOQuake3 will do: 
           >> 
           >>     http://ioquake3.org <http://ioquake3.org/> 
           >> 
           >>     Enuff of my rambling ... 
           >> 
           >>     Martin H wrote: 
           >> 
           >>         Problem with the source engine is its not so good at 
          making a 
           >>         game like CoD, of all the mods i've played to date the only 
           >>         one that had potential imo was Insurgency. Which 
          although fun, 
           >>         didnt come close to the gameplay of CoD 
           >> 
           >>         I just dont think the source engine is cut out for a 
          game like 
           >>         cod. come to think of it though, i cant think of 
          anything that 
           >>         is... 
           >> 
           >>         One of the gripes i have with the system they intend on 
          using 
           >>         is, if the matchmaking system always puts you against people 
           >>         at your skill level, how is a player meant to progress? i've 
           >>         always found the best way to improve is to be subjected to 
           >>         repeated raping. If IWNet dumps you with players on your 
           >>         level, you just wont improve. 
           >> 
           >>         It says its done on "skill level". How is a skill level 
           >>         determined? Average KD ratio? if thats the case, players 
          will 
           >>         be flying up and down the skill rankings every time they 
          have 
           >>         a bad/good day. If a player is doing particularly well on a 
           >>         certain day, their KD ratio would increase. But the next 
          day, 
           >>         if they're back to 'normal' levels, they'll be way out of 
           >>         their depth. Or vice versa. quite easy to have a bad 
          day, and 
           >>         then find yourself on a server with people way below your 
           >>         actual skill rating. 
           >> 
           >>         "The biggest benefit of using IWnet by far is the fact that 
           >>         you don’t have to worry about joining a server full of 
           >>         aim-bots, wallhacks, or cheaters. Or relying on the server 
           >>         admin of the server to constantly be monitoring, 
          banning, and 
           >>         policing it." 
           >> 
           >>         Yeah, thats great until theres an admin that isnt 100% clued 
           >>         up on banning people, and theres a guy on the server who's 
           >>         name is changing every two seconds. Its going to be no 
           >>         different than a CoD4 server in reality. 
           >> 
           >>         Surely the better way to get rid of cheating would be to 
          seal 
           >>         up all the holes that allow these hacks to be created in the 
           >>         first place? 
           >> 
           >>         2009/10/20 Joker{eXtreme+} <joker at mycallofduty.com 
          <mailto:joker at mycallofduty.com> 
           >>         <mailto:joker at mycallofduty.com 
          <mailto:joker at mycallofduty.com>> <mailto:joker at mycallofduty.com 
          <mailto:joker at mycallofduty.com> 
           >>         <mailto:joker at mycallofduty.com 
          <mailto:joker at mycallofduty.com>>>> 
           >> 
           >> 
           >>            Another post by Bowling 
           >>            http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745 
           >> 
           >>            ~Joker 
           >> 
           >> 
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           >> 
           >> 
           >>            To: "Call of Duty server admin list." 
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           >>         <mailto:cod at icculus.org <mailto:cod at icculus.org>> 
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           >> 
           >>            Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:06 AM 
           >> 
           >>            Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 
          2 on 
           >>         the PC 
           >> 
           >> 
           >>            Best thing to do is start with the mod makers in that 
          first 
           >>         interview. 
           >>            Have them get together with a single purpose "make or 
          mod an 
           >>            alternative". 
           >> 
           >>            Valve offers great support: 
           >> 
           >> 
           >> 
           >> 
          http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Building_Mods_with_Valve_Technology 
           >> 
           >>            :) 
           >> 
           >>            Bong-Master wrote: 
           >> 
           >>                broken record Lmfto no just a long record lol any 
          how, 
           >>         how & 
           >>                were do you 
           >>                start ? 
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           >>                From: "escapedturkey" 
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           >> 
           >>                Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:55 PM 
           >>                To: "Call of Duty server admin list." 
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           >>         <mailto:cod at icculus.org <mailto:cod at icculus.org>> 
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           >> 
           >>                Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern 
          Warfare 2 
           >>         on the PC 
           >> 
           >>                    Exactly. I don't see why this can't be done 
          via the 
           >>         Source 
           >>                    engine or 
           >>                    other means. All the weapons, game play, and such 
           >>         can be 
           >>                    replicated. 
           >> 
           >>                    Valve shows a lot of support, has VAC, 
          dedicated Linux 
           >>                    binares, etc. 
           >> 
           >>                    Anyhow, I am sounding like a broken record. :) 
           >> 
           >>                    Hannu Kumpeli wrote: 
           >> 
           >>                        Lets put the money together from the 100,000+ 
           >>         signatures 
           >>                        and let some 
           >>                        company make us the game we want with DEDI 
           >>         SUPPORT :D 
           >> 
           >>                            Let's go open-source or Source engine! :) 
           >> 
           >>                            As I listened to the interview most 
          of the 
           >>         people 
           >>                            talking were 
           >>                            modders. Can't they all come together 
          and do a 
           >>                            Source mod or open 
           >>                            source project? 
           >> 
           >>                            I'm sure a Source engine mod would work 
           >>         quite well. 
           >> 
           >>                            Source and open-source aren't the 
          same, for 
           >>         anyone 
           >>                            confused. :) 
           >> 
           >>                            Joker{eXtreme+} wrote: 
           >> 
           >>                                Confirmation that they are still NOT 
           >>         going to 
           >>                                put in Dedi Server 
           >>                                support. 
           >> 
           >>                                I'm done.  Thank you all and have a 
           >>         good life. 
           >> 
           >>                                ~Joker 
           >> 
           >> 
           >>                                ----- Original Message ----- From: 
           >>         "Einar S. Idsø" 
           >>                                <einar.cod at norsk-esport.no 
          <mailto:einar.cod at norsk-esport.no> 
           >>         <mailto:einar.cod at norsk-esport.no 
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           >>                                <mailto:einar.cod at norsk-esport.no 
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           >>         <mailto:einar.cod at norsk-esport.no 
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           >> 
           >>                                To: "Call of Duty server admin list." 
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           >> 
           >>                                Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 
          10:32 AM 
           >>                                Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to 
          vent, 
           >>         Modern 
           >>                                Warfare 2 on the PC 
           >> 
           >> 
           >>                                Just out: Official Infinity Ward 
           >>         response to 
           >>                                #MW2 PC players 
           >> 
           >> 
           >> 
          http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/10/20/modern-warfare-2-dedicated-server-response.aspx 
           >> 
           >> 
           >>                                Cheers, 
           >>                                Einar 
           >> 
           >>                                On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:12 PM, 
           >>         escapedturkey 
           >>                                <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com 
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           >>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com 
          <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>> 
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          <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com> 
           >>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com 
          <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>>>> wrote: 
           >> 
           >>                                    Wouldn't it best to offer both? 
           >> 
           >>                                    IW.net and dedicated servers 
          as an 
           >>         option? 
           >> 
           >>                                    That way they can see by the 
          statistics 
           >>                                    which is the preferred 
           >>                                    mode of game 
           >>                                    play. 
           >> 
           >>                                    Schlup wrote: 
           >> 
           >>                                        Yes fake, was there 
          really any 
           >>         doubt? 
           >> 
           >>                                        -----Original Message----- 
           >>                                        From: Mavrick 
           >> 
           >>          [mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com 
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           >>         <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com 
          <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com>>>] Sent: 
           >>                                        Tuesday, 
           >>                                        October 20, 
           >>                                        2009 7:42 AM 
           >>                                        To: Call of Duty server 
          admin list. 
           >>                                        Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have 
           >>         to vent, 
           >>                                        Modern Warfare 2 on the PC 
           >> 
           >> 
           >> 
           >> 
           >> 
          http://www.a2kclan.com/blog.htm?a=&nid=407927B7-640B-49AE-AD32-B162A0A3049E 
          <http://www.a2kclan.com/blog.htm?a=&nid=407927B7-640B-49AE-AD32-B162A0A3049E> 
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           >> 
           >> 
           >>                                        fake? 
           >> 
           >>                                        Richard GrosJean wrote: 
           >> 
           >>                                            120k signatures to go 
          until it 
           >>                                            reaches the famed 
          Starcraft 
           >>         2 LAN 
           >>                                            petition 
           >>                                            status. 
           >> 
           >>                                            On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 
           >>         8:21 AM, 
           >>                                            Mavrick Master 
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           >>         <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com 
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           >>         <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com 
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           >>                                            wrote: 
           >> 
           >>                                            84884 Total 
          Signatures and 
           >>         counting... 
           >> 
           >>                                            **grabs another popcorn** 
           >> 
           >> 
           >> 
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