[cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC

[escapedturkey]

http://xreal-project.net/?page_id=35

http://xreal-project.net/?page_id=15

Notice the lighting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy9K2jZkchM

schlup at bulletproofnerds.com wrote:
> I'm sorry but UrbanTerror is a pretty low end game, I for one wouldn't 
> even waste my time downloading it because of the terrible graphics. Â It 
> looks like CS 1.4 to be honest. Â Open source will never make a game 
> that can compete with the big developers. Â Sorry to crush your dreams 
> but I'm trying to be realistic. Â Look at America's Army...there was 
> money behind that and it's still bad, not even in the same universe as 
> CoD4 let alone MW2.
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> -- Sent from my Palm Pre
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> escapedturkey wrote:
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> UrbanTerror started as a Quake 3 mod and is now complete open-source
> game thanks to Carmack releasing the Q3 engine source code. Nexiuz,
> Alien Arena, Tremulous, and Warsow are all fine examples of open-source
> projects that are complete games.
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> http://dpmaster.deathmask.net/?game=urbanterror
> http://dpmaster.deathmask.net/?game=nexuiz
> http://dpmaster.deathmask.net/?game=warsow
> http://dpmaster.deathmask.net/?game=tremulous
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> Hopefully once the dust settles, considerations for alternative
> approaches come forth. In the meantime we are back to our regularly
> scheduled drama of the community begging for updates, patches, and fixes
> from companies.
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> I guess it's just an odd sort of dream of mine to see the community
> entirely in charge of the FPS gaming world -- gaming meets the Linux
> philosophy.
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> Caleb Stephens wrote:
>> Lets not forget, the only thing this strategy is going to do is sell 
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>> consoles and put GSP's and all of the fringe projects out of business 
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>> long term.  Not to mention data centers.
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>> This isn't IW's strategy.  This wreaks of antitrust violation from you 
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>> know who.  GSP's need to be up in arms.
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>> Open source is a great idea.  But anyone care to guess how much it costs 
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>> to develop a game like COD4/MW2?  We're consumers.  Opensource will 
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>> never provide that.
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>> MaydaX - great - where do we get pre-order cancellation numbers? - good 
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>> point re duplication, but accurate enough.
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>> Businesses that don't listen to their customers fail.  Or should.
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>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:25 AM, escapedturkey 
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>> <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
>> <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>> wrote:
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>>     Yes, I completely understand that we vote with our dollars. That's
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>>     why I'm advocating we go the open-source route or support a
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>>     developer / publisher that will support us back -- i.e. Valve's
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>>     Source engine. Begging Activision/IW seems a bit demeaning and
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>>     giving them too much power. The communities need to lead our hobby
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>>     not the corporations. Perhaps I'm not making my opinion clear. Sorry.
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>>     Caleb Stephens wrote:
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>>         Over reliance?  This isn't about reliance.  We vote with our
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>>         dollars.  Corporate strategy is measured in profitability.
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>>         These petitions won't do anything other than give a head count
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>>         number showing the impact of this corp strategy.
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>>         This is a huge petition w/ over 50K signatures already collected
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>>         (approx $3.5M of value zapped out of the entire supply chain):
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>>         http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw
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>>         It seems to be collecting 2k sigs per hour.
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>>         We need a list to track all the lists.  LOL
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>>         On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:24 AM, escapedturkey
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>>         <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
>>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>
>>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
>>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>>> wrote:
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>>            *Stands up to podium*
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>>            *Clears throat*
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>>            *Drinks a sip of water*
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>>            As far as petitions and ranting goes, I think as a community
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>>         we need
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>>            to show a bit of self-respect. All this pleading and begging just
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>>            shows an over reliance on a corporation's decision making on the
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>>            state of our gaming experience. We need to re-focus this
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>>         energy into
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>>            alternatives that will make us less dependent on the "suits"
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>>            determining the direction of our favorite hobby.
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>>            Does anyone else agree or am I alone in my opinion?
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>>            *Stands down from podium*
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