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My kingdom for Ryan's hard drive! :(

On Sep 10, 2010 1:06 AM, "Keith Z-G" <keithzg at gmail.com> wrote:
> The exact quote from Ryan about the middleware holding things up (I
> found it via google because I remembered one of the exact phrases he
> said, and then just searched for exactly that and "Ryan Gordon").
>
>
http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?/topic/43994-ut-3-for-linux/page__view__findpost__p__335129?s=5a35f00fa3cde4967f5f84b1ef913102
>
> Here's the text of the post for those lazy / for future reference:
>
> ===================================================
>
> Posted 21 November 2007 - 04:15 PM
>
> sorry but ... linux version of UT3 maybe not on this year
>
> While hanging out on IRC, I asked the big question of the day, "Has
> anyone heard from Icculus on the UT3 server or client?" Here's the
> dialog that resulted from the question:
>
> <icculus> it's stuck in legal
> <augustus> Legal? Seriously? Have you had legal involved in previous
games?
> <icculus> Not like this, no
> <icculus> There's some issues with middleware
> <augustus> so is the hold-up indefinite?
> <icculus> augustus: not indefinite
> <icculus> augustus: the politics should be worked out for the server
> soon, I'm removing the offending piece of code.
> <augustus> icculus: And the client?
> <icculus> augustus: that's going to take somewhat longer
> <augustus> icculus: From the sound of it, there is no ETA then?
> <icculus> augustus: I'm not committing to one
> <augustus> icculus: I understand. Seems like it's quite out of your hands.
> <icculus> If I told you what the specific problem is, you wouldn't believe
me
> * icculus declines to say more. :)
>
> And, while I had his attention, I had to ask: "Are you doing a Gears
> of War port?"
> <icculus> augustus: for Mac OS X, yes.
> <augustus> icculus: Linux no then?
> <icculus> augustus: There's something about a Linux port that the
> Gears publisher doesn't like...can't quite put my finger on it...
> <augustus> icculus: I was afraid of that.
> <augustus> icculus: Funny that Mac isn't a competitor but Linux is.
> <icculus> I don't speak for Microsoft, but I assume it's just company
> policy to not do anything Linux related.
>
> :(
>
> ===============================================
>
> A slightly personal note: What I guess was some time ago, Ryan ported
> Prey over to Linux. I had bought Prey but, after playing it a tad,
> never finished it since I couldn't really bring myself to boot into
> Windows. His port of Prey gave me the opportunity to actually play
> through the game I had bought without having to basically disconnect
> (via booting into Windows) the central point of my home network, ie. I
> actually got around to playing through it. Without Ryan's work I
> would have wasted my money in buying that game. I sent him off an
> e-mail thanking him, and he responded promptly and positively. If
> there's any fundamental tragedy here it's that Ryan's work on UT3 has
> been lost----he's a good guy as far as I can tell, and a hell of a
> programmer, but because of absurd legal permutations his work is never
> going to see the light of day, and we're never going to get to enjoy
> it. It's a fucking shame, and I don't believe for a second that Ryan
> is at any fault here; he's been screwed over just like the rest of us.
>
> But hey, we've got a hell of an off-topic discussion board out of it! ;)
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Ryan Barton <debian.moment at gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Ah yes sorry I was fuzzy on the details
>>
>> On 09/08/2010 09:05 AM, Valeriy wrote:
>>
>> If you mean this
>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODI1OA
>> Then it's not Mark Rein, but, yeah, it's canned for a long time anyway.
>> Though I wish Epic could say "never" instead of "unlikely" :(
>>
>> 2010/9/8 Ryan Barton <debian.moment at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> For those of you who missed it, mark rein told phoronix ut3 for linux is
>>> canned. Phoronix likes to make things up but this time I believe him.
>>>
>>> On Sep 8, 2010 12:41 AM, "Daniel Eckl" <daniel.eckl at gmx.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> In this case, you failed epically. Never saw such a great discussion
>>> on this list with good infos and great mood.
>>>
>>> 2010/9/8 Clayton <wellsfrago at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> > I am very entertained that I started this stupid flare up
>>>
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