[ut3] hey

[Keith Z-G]

The exact quote from Ryan about the middleware holding things up (I
found it via google because I remembered one of the exact phrases he
said, and then just searched for exactly that and "Ryan Gordon").

http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?/topic/43994-ut-3-for-linux/page__view__findpost__p__335129?s=5a35f00fa3cde4967f5f84b1ef913102

Here's the text of the post for those lazy / for future reference:

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Posted 21 November 2007 - 04:15 PM

sorry but ... linux version of UT3 maybe not on this year

While hanging out on IRC, I asked the big question of the day, "Has
anyone heard from Icculus on the UT3 server or client?" Here's the
dialog that resulted from the question:

<icculus> it's stuck in legal
<augustus> Legal? Seriously? Have you had legal involved in previous games?
<icculus> Not like this, no
<icculus> There's some issues with middleware
<augustus> so is the hold-up indefinite?
<icculus> augustus: not indefinite
<icculus> augustus: the politics should be worked out for the server
soon, I'm removing the offending piece of code.
<augustus> icculus: And the client?
<icculus> augustus: that's going to take somewhat longer
<augustus> icculus: From the sound of it, there is no ETA then?
<icculus> augustus: I'm not committing to one
<augustus> icculus: I understand. Seems like it's quite out of your hands.
<icculus> If I told you what the specific problem is, you wouldn't believe me
* icculus declines to say more. :)

And, while I had his attention, I had to ask: "Are you doing a Gears
of War port?"
<icculus> augustus: for Mac OS X, yes.
<augustus> icculus: Linux no then?
<icculus> augustus: There's something about a Linux port that the
Gears publisher doesn't like...can't quite put my finger on it...
<augustus> icculus: I was afraid of that.
<augustus> icculus: Funny that Mac isn't a competitor but Linux is.
<icculus> I don't speak for Microsoft, but I assume it's just company
policy to not do anything Linux related.

:(

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A slightly personal note: What I guess was some time ago, Ryan ported
Prey over to Linux.  I had bought Prey but, after playing it a tad,
never finished it since I couldn't really bring myself to boot into
Windows.  His port of Prey gave me the opportunity to actually play
through the game I had bought without having to basically disconnect
(via booting into Windows) the central point of my home network, ie. I
actually got around to playing through it.  Without Ryan's work I
would have wasted my money in buying that game.  I sent him off an
e-mail thanking him, and he responded promptly and positively.  If
there's any fundamental tragedy here it's that Ryan's work on UT3 has
been lost----he's a good guy as far as I can tell, and a hell of a
programmer, but because of absurd legal permutations his work is never
going to see the light of day, and we're never going to get to enjoy
it.  It's a fucking shame, and I don't believe for a second that Ryan
is at any fault here; he's been screwed over just like the rest of us.

But hey, we've got a hell of an off-topic discussion board out of it! ;)

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Ryan Barton <debian.moment at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah yes sorry I was fuzzy on the details
>
> On 09/08/2010 09:05 AM, Valeriy wrote:
>
> If you mean this
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODI1OA
> Then it's not Mark Rein, but, yeah, it's canned for a long time anyway.
> Though I wish Epic could say "never" instead of "unlikely" :(
>
> 2010/9/8 Ryan Barton <debian.moment at gmail.com>
>>
>> For those of you who missed it, mark rein told phoronix ut3 for linux is
>> canned. Phoronix likes to make things up but this time I believe him.
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2010 12:41 AM, "Daniel Eckl" <daniel.eckl at gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>> In this case, you failed epically. Never saw such a great discussion
>> on this list with good infos and great mood.
>>
>> 2010/9/8 Clayton <wellsfrago at gmail.com>:
>>
>> > I am very entertained that I started this stupid flare up
>>
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