[ut3] Possible reason for UT3 Client delay

[Sir Brizz]

You're joking, right?

And NDA can restrict the disclosure of anything related to the NDA, 
including the NDA itself, if desired.

Brizz

David L. Willson wrote:
> How about an accurate status?
> A) Due to an NDA, I am not allowed to discuss the status of the client.
> B) The client should be out in a year.  I'm working on it.
> C) I'm no longer working on it.  Higher priority projects have come in.
>
> or whatever... No NDA prevents disclosure of the existence and scope of the NDA itself,
> that I am aware of.
>
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 17:15:46 +0200, Cironir wrote
>   
>> But why can Ryan not make a simple post that says something like,
>> "Sorry, guys, there's nothing I can say currently." or "Still working on
>> it." or "Apologies, things didn't turn out the way I hoped they would."
>> You know, just -something-. He talked to "us" before. What stops him
>> now? An NDA that wasn't in place before? Seems unlikely he would be
>> asked to sign it weeks after the release of the Windows version.
>>
>> On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 09:34 -0500, Matthew Clark wrote:
>>     
>>> How many times does it have to be repeated.... Ryan is an outside 
>>> consultant. If he is hire to make something and then it is held up by 
>>> EPIC it is not his fault.  I agree with everything but this, Ryan is not 
>>> to blame, look at his work. What reason does he have to screw us? He is 
>>> only a consultant, in no way an official part of Epic or VALVE or any 
>>> other company that is simply contracted to port something for.  I'm 
>>> grateful to Ryan, because he does something I can't yet do myself, even 
>>> if he gets screwed like the rest of us. You think he likes the fact that 
>>> the UT3 linux client hasn't been released yet?
>>>
>>> Steve M Morehead III wrote:
>>>       
>>>> couldn't have said it better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 11:23 +0200, Cironir wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Dean --
>>>>>
>>>>> Why are you surprised that Linux users are upset after they were tricked
>>>>> into pre-ordering and buying the Windows version of UT3? With what
>>>>> turned out to be false and empty promises, which were then followed by
>>>>> months of complete silence and disregard. Ryan is not the hand that
>>>>> feeds the customers. The customers are the hand that feeds Ryan. It's a
>>>>> common misconception that customers of game studios need to be somehow
>>>>> grateful for the privilege of being allowed to give the company their
>>>>> money.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, they didn't want my business as a Linux user. That's fine. ID and
>>>>> Splash Damage got the money I had planned to spend on UT3 instead. Not
>>>>> that SD is very reliable when it comes to release estimates, but they do
>>>>> this obscure thing called "communication". Respect for your customers
>>>>> does lead to customer loyalty. I hardly feel respected by Epic or Ryan
>>>>> after this whole mess. (It is the silence, not the fact that other
>>>>> issues may have come up.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 09:14 +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> You have a list which Ryan, the developer/porter has graciously provided.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Insulting him, in a medium HE graciously provides is... rude maybe?
>>>>>> ungrateful? tactless?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> take your pick.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dean
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David L. Willson wrote:
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Feeds what?  I don't run a server, so what have I gotten?  Game?  No. 
>>>>>>>               
> Updates?  No. 
>   
>>>>>>> Information?  No.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The hand doesn't feed.  Eat it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 08:44:43 +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> hmm, nice work. biting the hand that feeds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dean
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Philipp Schmieder wrote:
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>> This mailing list doesn't belong to Epic. It's Ryan's baby.
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>> Well, then he seems to be a bad father.
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