[quake3] Re: internationally accepted toggleconsole bind

[echon at echon.org]

I suppose that rcon is a good example, but the other ones were problems 
with the mods, or things for advanced users. Making regular users learn 
console commands will just annoy them.

At 04:28 AM 2/6/2007 -0800, you wrote:
>"The console is more a developer
>thing anyways, you're doing something wrong if your players have to
>regularly use it. :)"
>
>Not so at all. It has many uses not restricted to developers. For
>instance here are a few:
>1. I regularly use rcon to administer my ioquake server on a remote
>Linux system: kick, add, vstr dn to change maps or add a new one whil
>'in game'.
>2. often in the past, I've seen people bind to the 'hook' starting a
>game with that mod.
>3. I hae severa configuration scripts for FOV zooming, fast weapon
>switch, team orders, and chat/taunt I use sometimes. Testing them is
>easy if I can load them from the console.
>4. one can dump all ones variables whcih is very helpfl in tweaking
>the params for optimal graphics/sound/controls/etc
>
>Daniel

Yeah, that could be a problem.

At 07:53 PM 2/6/2007 +0100, you wrote:
>On mån, 2007-02-05 at 18:01 -0800, echon at echon.org wrote:
> > IMHO Doom3 and Quake4 did it best. It's ctrl+alt+tilde unless you have
> > com_allowConsole set to 1. This allows you to use tilde as a bind key, say
> > it in chat, and preserve the console's availability. Though I have no idea
> > how this would do on other keyboard types. The console is more a developer
> > thing anyways, you're doing something wrong if your players have to
> > regularly use it. :)
>
>Tilde is a bad choice, tile is a character modifier on most if not all
>latin keyboards. Ie, to write a tilde i have to do 'altgr' + <diaeresis
>key> and then space. Which would make that keyboard combination ctrl alt
>altgr diaeresis...
>
>Keyboard layout and tilde use in languages:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilde#Diacritical_use
>
>--
>Ian Kumlien <pomac () vapor ! com> -- http://pomac.netswarm.net