[lgfaq] Random behaviour

[Chunky Kibbles]

On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 06:43:11PM -0500, zakk wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 18:09, Chunky Kibbles wrote:
> 
> > After much arguing.
> 
> I still haven't heard a good reason why the Linux Gamers' FAQ should
> cover BSD. I do see the BSD people as needing a similar document but
> nobody provided any good way to handle it until I thought up a way to
> deal with BSD.

We discussed this the other day, but I'll give a couple comments here
here:

BSD Gamers play linux games. It would be really nice if the people on
the ut2k3 mailing list could have some kind of reference they could
use. Anything on a BSD-specific FAQ would have so much overlap with
stuff on the lgfaq that it would make the two documents completely
annoying to have to deal with.

BSD Gamers also have nothing at the moment, and this is offering them
something. I won't maintain a separate faq, where I answer all the
same questions as I do on this one.

> > Two things:
> > 1) I posted stuff. It was either removed or edited. At no point did I
> > ever edit or remove anything myself.
> > 2) Timedoctor is, in fact, a completely different "thing" to the
> > lgfaq, and arguments relating to one should not be moved to, or have
> > any effect on, the other.
> 
> You and treke say that he was the only one who fucked with td.o. I don't
> take such things lightly.

Actually, read my .plan. You mess with td.o, which is fine. It's your
website. Changing the word "ass" to "nose" is something that's clearly
been edited, and I can see how you think it's "making with the funnay".

In this case, though, you did it in a personally abusive way that
actually put me out. I made a comment about loki_setup, you made a
comment about loki_setup. I made a comment, and you changed it to be
exactly the opposite of what I'd said, while making it appear that it
still came from me. Putting the word playdoh on the end is effectively
the same as changing "ass" to "nose", it still seemed that the rest of
it had come from me.

If you'd merely edited this so that it was "more funnay" as you claim
were you reasons, making me say the opposite of what I said without
changing anything else was not "more funnay"

All of which is also something that should be discussed someplace else
because this is the lgfaq mailing list. Unless this conversation is
part of judging my trustworthyness.

> > At what point did I become untrustworthy? Would it be at the point my
> > posts were edited to say something completely contrary to what I
> > meant, or would it be at the point where someone took me off the list
> > of contributors to a project?
> 
> You are off the list of the contributors because that is the list for
> active contributors, and people who can't be credited in the CVS, which
> is the only place credit is recorded. You are untrustworthy since you
> and treke decided to fuck with td.o

I repeat. I have NEVER, EVER, edited or removed ANY post on ANY forum,
ANYWHERE, EVER. I will not speak for Greg, but his "fucking" with
td.o, I believe, was removing the post that I found offensive, as a
favor to me.

> Fucking with projects I maintain lowers your credibility. I don't want
> people who aren't credible being rewarded with the ability to dick with
> other projects.

Actually, I believe at this point that /you/ are "fucking" with this
project in a wholly unacceptable and out-of-line fashion. I feel that
I have contributed a non-trivial amount of work in the past and
removing my cvs access and name from the credits is not acceptable in
any public place. [although CVS access has not yet been removed, you
told me it would be a few minutes ago]


To be honest, also, a thought:

It is my belief that the ownership/head maintainer of this project should
be changed

Gary