[cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC

Tue Oct 20 14:23:45 EDT 2009

Problem with the source engine is its not so good at making a game like CoD,
of all the mods i've played to date the only one that had potential imo was
Insurgency. Which although fun, didnt come close to the gameplay of CoD

I just dont think the source engine is cut out for a game like cod. come to
think of it though, i cant think of anything that is...

One of the gripes i have with the system they intend on using is, if the
matchmaking system always puts you against people at your skill level, how
is a player meant to progress? i've always found the best way to improve is
to be subjected to repeated raping. If IWNet dumps you with players on your
level, you just wont improve.

It says its done on "skill level". How is a skill level determined? Average
KD ratio? if thats the case, players will be flying up and down the skill
rankings every time they have a bad/good day. If a player is doing
particularly well on a certain day, their KD ratio would increase. But the
next day, if they're back to 'normal' levels, they'll be way out of their
depth. Or vice versa. quite easy to have a bad day, and then find yourself
on a server with people way below your actual skill rating.

"The biggest benefit of using IWnet by far is the fact that you don’t have
to worry about joining a server full of aim-bots, wallhacks, or cheaters. Or
relying on the server admin of the server to constantly be monitoring,
banning, and policing it."

Yeah, thats great until theres an admin that isnt 100% clued up on banning
people, and theres a guy on the server who's name is changing every two
seconds. Its going to be no different than a CoD4 server in reality.

Surely the better way to get rid of cheating would be to seal up all the
holes that allow these hacks to be created in the first place?

2009/10/20 Joker{eXtreme+} <joker at mycallofduty.com>

> Another post by Bowling
> http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745
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> ~Joker
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "escapedturkey" <
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> To: "Call of Duty server admin list." <cod at icculus.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:06 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC
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>
> Best thing to do is start with the mod makers in that first interview.
> Have them get together with a single purpose "make or mod an alternative".
>
> Valve offers great support:
>
> http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Building_Mods_with_Valve_Technology
>
> :)
>
> Bong-Master wrote:
>
>> broken record Lmfto no just a long record lol any how, how & were do you
>> start ?
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "escapedturkey" <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 6:55 PM
>> To: "Call of Duty server admin list." <cod at icculus.org>
>> Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC
>>
>>  Exactly. I don't see why this can't be done via the Source engine or
>>> other means. All the weapons, game play, and such can be replicated.
>>>
>>> Valve shows a lot of support, has VAC, dedicated Linux binares, etc.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I am sounding like a broken record. :)
>>>
>>> Hannu Kumpeli wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lets put the money together from the 100,000+ signatures and let some
>>>> company make us the game we want with DEDI SUPPORT :D
>>>>
>>>>  Let's go open-source or Source engine! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> As I listened to the interview most of the people talking were
>>>>> modders. Can't they all come together and do a Source mod or open
>>>>> source project?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure a Source engine mod would work quite well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Source and open-source aren't the same, for anyone confused. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Joker{eXtreme+} wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Confirmation that they are still NOT going to put in Dedi Server
>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm done.  Thank you all and have a good life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~Joker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Einar S. IdsÃ¸"
>>>>>> <einar.cod at norsk-esport.no>
>>>>>> To: "Call of Duty server admin list." <cod at icculus.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:32 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just out: Official Infinity Ward response to #MW2 PC players
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2009/10/20/modern-warfare-2-dedicated-server-response.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Einar
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 3:12 PM, escapedturkey
>>>>>> <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wouldn't it best to offer both?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IW.net and dedicated servers as an option?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That way they can see by the statistics which is the preferred
>>>>>>> mode of game
>>>>>>> play.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Schlup wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes fake, was there really any doubt?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Mavrick [mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday,
>>>>>>>> October 20,
>>>>>>>> 2009 7:42 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Call of Duty server admin list.
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.a2kclan.com/blog.htm?a=&nid=407927B7-640B-49AE-AD32-B162A0A3049E
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> fake?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Richard GrosJean wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 120k signatures to go until it reaches the famed Starcraft 2 LAN
>>>>>>>>> petition
>>>>>>>>> status.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Mavrick Master
>>>>>>>>> <mavrick.master at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mavrick.master at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 84884 Total Signatures and counting...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> **grabs another popcorn**
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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