[cod] monitoring script

Geoff Goas gitman at gmail.com
Tue Oct 18 18:09:49 EDT 2005


i realize what it would take to get something like this going, but for
something like this i figure why write it myself when its already
available

i'll check out that dtools, thanks

On 10/18/05, Ian mu <mu.llamas at gmail.com> wrote:
> S'ok, I just find the whole thread a little odd, but its always the way when
> criticical posts take threads offtopic and for me do more harm than good and
> detract from people posting more to get to a decent solution.
>
> Going to try and explain a situation though that maybe some will understand,
> some won't but it may give some ideas why people sometimes aren't all that
> forthcoming as much as we'd like sometimes including myself.
>
> Personally I have been given specific instructions not to help other people
> with code I've written for other companies, I have no choice in the matter,
> simple as that. Same goes pretty much with other support I do. Yet I want to
> help people, I enjoy gaming, I enjoy coding (no not even that good, far from
> it), I'm not on these lists just to annoy people or to suck up information
> and give nothing in return as most aren't. How do I get around it? By pretty
> much being anonymous and trying to help people as much as I can without
> releasing any code written for someone else certainly.
>
> Now you typically won't get much/any released code from any main hoster
> (can't think of any off the top of my head), etc with very few exceptions.
> You will get a lot of people trying to help with a hand tied behind their
> back however, knowing on the one hand they'd like to release every bit of
> code (no matter how crummy, it will help someone) yet knowing they can't,
> but they will spend lots of time helping others get to that same point of
> having at least similar code or achieving what they want, or helping them
> learn.
>
> If they have the will, others will help them get there. If anyone wanted to
> do a public collaboration for example on this emailing list and everyone
> contribute as an ongoing project I'd personally be willing to help and
> chances are it "could" end up better than any single solution bar the odd
> very larger project out there. I doubt it would happen, but would be very
> interesting if it did.
>
> It also does come down to a little the way I see irc though, I spend lots of
> time in the main channels helping people. Typically I won't give a full
> script or config, I will "always" try and help people to understand so they
> can for themselves though create whatever they want and give ideas that
> maybe they hadn't thought of (and I receive the same in return gaining ideas
> I hadn't thought of). It's a win/win situation, criticism does only one
> thing, it stops anything productive from being forthcoming, I've seen it
> time and time again (and no not having a go). There's criticism and there's
> constructive criticism, and most genuine people will always take the latter.
>
> Anyway, just wanted to get away from the criticisms and try and explain a
> little why everything isn't so obvious when lots of people are probably
> using scripts already and everyone isn't suddenly posting them. The help is
> here, and I'm sure most just want the threads to keep on a constructive mode
> and even if it takes 20 posts to get there end up with a decent solution.
>
>
> On 10/18/05, frenton <frenton at orcon.net.nz> wrote:
> > Hey,
> > i didn't want to be offensive to anyone. And i didn't suggest to use
> > Google (sorry if it has been misunderstood by my bad english), that's
> > what i critized! If I had a script for monitoring purposes i would have
> > published it here, but unfortunately i haven't. So the thing what i
> > "critize" (if so) is that suggesting a Google search can't make anyone
> > to write a linux shell script for monitoring purposes.
> >
> > BTW: And hey, I got tons of very useful helping hints here through this
> > list! Anyway...
> >
>


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