[cod] DMW Anti-Cheat

[James Landi]

The majority of people buying CoD2 or any FPS does not even play online. 

Granted that's hard for us to believe but sometimes the truth hurts us
ADMINS :)

-Jim
Rudedog
FPSadmin.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Harrison [mailto:richardnharrison at btinternet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:51 AM
To: cod at icculus.org
Subject: RE: [cod] DMW Anti-Cheat

Yeah but think about it in a cost effective way. Is it
cost effective for them to develop their own AC for
COD2 and then a new one for maybe COD3 (if that was to
be made). Or do they pay for a service that others
will do the work that can be an 'afterthought' after
the game has been published.

You could look at it another way,
Has the lack of punkbuster effected sales of the game.

If people are really bothered by the lack of PB they
would not have bought the game and then ACT/IW would
have to think twice. The sad fact is that your average
gamer thinks PB as a 'nice to have' and not a 'must
have' on purchasing the game and hence this will
always be the way.

Other games developers/publishers are more forward
thinking though.

--- James Landi <jim at landi.net> wrote:

> If I was ACTV/IW I think I would consider a new form
> of AC.  
> 
>  
> 
> Now think about it for a second.  The hackers
> already know how to bypass BP
> if they really wanted to.  With a new system, they
> would have to learn all
> over again or we wish they would.  I kind of like
> the idea of a new system.
> Granted we will all have to learn something new but
> that also means the
> cheaters/hackers will as well.
> 
>  
> 
> What ever they decide I hope they do it quickly 
> 
>  
> 
> -Jim
> 
> Rudedog
> 
> FPSadmin.com
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: Mark J. DeFilippis [mailto:defilm at acm.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:29 PM
> To: cod at icculus.org
> Subject: Re: [cod] DMW Anti-Cheat
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Well, I bought that domain, and I will be happy with
> any A/C system.
> 
> If you think about it, ATCV must have wanted to do
> something
> they felt was better than PB or it seems it would be
> easy to have
> done PB.  The system by Garetjax sounds promising. 
> There have
> a few options. I would think PB would have been the
> easiest and
> least costly.
> 
> Honestly they have always come through before.  They
> have earned
> the right of some time IMHO.  We don't have our
> first patch yet. (Can't
> count 1a).
> which is a real credit to the job ACTV did, and Ryan
> of course
> on the Linux binary.
> 
> But in about a year, if you still feel this way, you
> can pick up the
> domain as I don't think I will be renewing it. ;-)
> lol..
> 
> ACTV and IFW have always been open. There has to be
> some
> reason they don't wish to disclose at this time. 
> Steve, Jay, and a
> few others have written open emails on this list,
> and there was no
> response (on the list anyway).  It is
> uncharacteristic, so they must
> have a reason.  Perhaps to not give the hackers a
> jump start.
> I saw cheats for COD2 the day the game came out in
> stores ;-))
> Geez, they had be be modifying their cheats based on
> picking
> apart the demo...
> 
> Mark
> 
> At 01:29 PM 11/16/2005, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If that's right I think it's time to activate the
> "www.activisionsucks.com
> <http://www.activisionsucks.com/> "-website now.
> 
> James Landi schrieb:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This is something DMW is doing on their own. 
> Activision has not stated who,
> what or when A/C will be implemented in CoD2.
> 
> 
> -Jim Landi
> 
> Rudedog
> 
> FPSadmin.com
> 
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