[bf1942] OT: Communication with and from DICE Canada

Johan Stålnacke johan.sp at home.se
Thu May 20 18:19:59 EDT 2004

More OT:

New propaganda voice for BFV
(Copied from a site that has copied it from some other place and so on..)
"Game player, buggy code falls from the sky like broken birds
They do not want to spend money testing your system specs at their company,
game player.
They come to bomb your system."

"Game player, EA has abandoned you.
They have ordered you to be a beta tester
Do not trust them"

"Defect, game player
It is a very good idea to leave a sinking ship."

"They lie to you, game player.
You know you cannot fix this game.
EA grows richer while you optimise your system, game player.
They will give you a patch but only after you are dead."

"EA lies to you every day, poor game player.
You have lost this war, game player.
EA will leave you behind."

"EA marketing makes you buy this game, game player.
They do not care about you."

"Game player, EA has betrayed you.
They will not return with a patch for you."

"Game player, the buggy code bombs your system.
You are not safe playing.
The game code is dangerous, game player.
It will crash tonight."

"The developers do not care that you are crashing, game player.
You cannot use firewalls to hide behind, game player.
Their buggy code will find you."

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Wolberg" <jon at ecgnetwork.com>
To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [bf1942] OT: Communication with and from DICE Canada

> your rish devs go risher as you play with lag, GI
> ;)
> In fact I just added that to the rotating announcements on our 40 man pub
> Hopefully I can take it out tomorrow
> Jon Wolberg
> Tech Support Manager
> www.ECGNetwork.Com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Martin Steiger" <martin at steigi.com>
> To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 5:51 PM
> Subject: [bf1942] OT: Communication with and from DICE Canada
> > Dear DICE/EA
> >
> > Since today was a "more busy day" on this mailinglist (I already
> I
> > misconfigured my mailclient), I'd like to spend a few words about this
> > mailing list, the forums and the general way of communication of DICE
> > Canada.
> >
> > Let me start at the beginning: When BF1942 was ported to linux, it was
> Ryan
> > C. Gordon who made the whole thing and started this mailing list. Every
> > input was (more or less) appreciated by Ryan, who never hesitated to
> answer
> > to any issue as fast as possible.
> >
> > Then, BF1942 moved to DICE Sweden. Personally, I believe, Andreas
> sometimes
> > wasn't so happy about following this list, but that's another story...
> > Fact is, he took our complaints serious and, after Steve started the
> > lightcubed-forums, he was even a frequent visitor there.
> >
> > At last, BF:V was given to DICE Canada (for whatever reasons) and since
> > then, communication was dead. No stop, I'm wrong: I remember having much
> > traffic on this list, when Peter Chang did it, asked for our opinion and
> > bugs and finally fixed them. His way of communication was sometimes
> sloppy,
> > but heh, at least we got some informations... :)
> >
> > Ok, so far for history, now let's juggle some numbers...
> >
> > Facts are gone now, the following numbers are only my assumptions: I
> assume,
> > this list has about 1'000 members. About 500 of them are "active" and
> wrote
> > at least one email. That would be IMHO about 500 more or less serious
> > admins.
> >
> > Now let's go to the forums: ~1800 registered users until now, let's be
> brave
> > and take 900 as serious admins. That would be 1'400 until now... Let's
> > modest again and say, every of them runs only one 20 slot server, or
> > more modest and decrease the numbers of serious players to only 10 per
> > server.
> >
> > We have the numbers, lets do the math: 1'400 * 10 = 14'000 (!!!!!!!!)
> >
> > Now for the conclusion: I know, EA has their own forums for bug
> > and I'm sure, they have thousands of posts every day with people,
> > complaining about the same thing every time.
> >
> > On this mailing list and the forums, you have these 14'000 opinions
> > _concentrated_ on a "few" mails and a "few" posts. Additionally, more
> > experienced admins are helping the less experienced out, so that's also
> > saving a lot work (and money) for your support people.
> >
> > I know you heard this a thousand times already, but please keep in mind,
> > that WE are running the servers, that make YOUR game so successful.
> >
> > We don't expect you to release your business plans for the next years or
> any
> > release dates, but IMHO, the lack of communication at the moment is
> > "inacceptable". The statements of "EA Mike" are just not enough to keep
> our
> > players happy.
> >
> > Thanks for your time
> >
> > Martin Steiger
> > (a "proud" member of the BF-community... ;)
> >
> >

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