[bf1942] Changing maps in game..

Rick Thompson fortweb at fortweb.com
Sun Feb 8 17:51:37 EST 2004

I must apologize to the list for not have our nazi anti-spam configured 
correctly. I assumed this was majordomo and only had whitelisted 
icculus.org, I think I have enough keywords defined that everyone will get 
through now.

PB was a welcome and much needed improvement overall. After watching Valves 
utter failure with it's own inhouse anti-cheat, I would rather have a good 
3rd party behind it with less questionable motives and priorities.

I was not bashing PB at all, my frustration was with the obvious 
pre-release beta condition of this software and the absolute lack of 
concise documentation. If some features don't work 100% I completely 
understand, this is first release software so I even expect it to have 

On the other hand, you can't tell me for one min that they did not know the 
PB admin panel puts the http port in a closed wait state and won't allow a 
user back in after the first map change. If they did not know it then that 
is just plain poor testing procedures but I assume they did know.

That in itself is not a problem, we all know they will fix it. What is a 
problem is that they can't take a few minutes to post a notice to that 
effect anywhere on the web site.

The update docs at http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=updatepb.php 
with pbweb sounds like it is the way to go for manual updates. There is a 
nix file but we have tried it on 3 different servers and it seg faults 
after getting the first lib file on all of them. I have to think this is 
common if it happens under RH 7, 8 and 9 so why is the file even there?

Pbweb is redundant anyway. Apparently all it takes is to get the pbsvnew.so 
file from the download page at 
http://www.evenbalance.com/index.php?page=dl-bf1942.php for a manual 
upgrade. Between those two pages and a user manual not written for the 
supported game, the confusion factor is high. Documentation and at the 
least, acknowledgement of known problems is important... just as important 
as the core software itself.

I like PB in concept and I appreciate what they are doing for the BF 
community. I just hope that from this point forward they will give us 
better documentation and be more prepared for releases. We are very 
understanding but if something is not working, we just need to know about it.


At 12:43 PM 2/8/2004 -0700, you wrote:

>Well how many cheaters have you caught?
>We have busted 12 since the release of BF1.6 & PB.
>Do not get me wrong, I very pro PB, it is just alot of players are getting
>kicked at the moment due to updating issues.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "charles "wokka" goldsmith" <wokka at justfamily.org>
>To: fortweb at fortweb.com
>Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 11:30 AM
>Subject: Re: [bf1942] Changing maps in game..
> > Craig Kaiser wrote:
> >
> > >Well stated there Rick on PunkBuster.
> > >
> > >Is it worth all the current problems? I had high hopes for this software,
> > >and I hope more info on using, updating and accessing this using linux is
> > >published soon!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Yes its worth it, we've noticed a huge difference in the scores of
> > suspected cheaters.
> >
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