[bf1942] Server Specs

monthos at mx3.org monthos at mx3.org
Mon Apr 7 16:04:22 EDT 2003

	Well then why did he ask if it would work, as if it was never tested,
and if it was tested and the outcome was as you stated. He never gave any
details as to what exactly was the problem, or even that a problem
existed. Had he stated that i would have loved to help him out and
diagnose the problem. And i did give an answer of the expected load
average, even though i felt dumber reading his message. Perhaps you need
to teach him how to give adequate information when requesting for help,
not to pretend there wasnt a problem at all and just ask "if it works on
a system at this speed" I would seriosuly expect someone who has been
around that long to have the knowledge to give at least some information
about a problem he wants help for.

	I have helped too many people with there game server hosting. And
around 50% of the time it comes from people who just learned linux and
wants to start a company. Just the other week i found one that didnt know
me, handed me a root password via IRC, of all places, and it ran a
quakeworld server as root, and they didnt even understand the fundamentals
of basic networking.

	So yes when i get a generic question like that from a generic
email like that, i assume its someone who wants to make a quick buck and
didnt even want to spend the time finding out for himself. Your trying to
sell a beta gameserver to someone and you didint even do research as to
what bugs it may conatin!

On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Derek Jackson wrote:

> I will preface this by saying I am not the same person that originated
> this thread from the same email address. I am the owner of the company
> you insulted. It's amazing to me, out of an honest question posted, you
> can not only flame the individual, but also our whole company.
> The individual who originally posted the question is definitely not 14;
> our company has been around more than a year already, and is very
> successful; and he had already tried said situation before posting about
> it.
> Before posting, we had spent some time setting up BF1942 on our Linux
> machines in an effort to add that to our repertoire. We had noticed that
> it was the most resource intense game server we'd ever used, even
> dwarfing Spearhead (which previously amazed us). We knew the machine we
> had it on (listed in the specs) was well more than adequate to do the
> job, however. Our first customer for this game complained of an issue we
> figured out later to be the 'bungee effect', but after letting the
> customer know this was an issue with the Linux server code, and not with
> us, they still wanted to drop the server. Wasn't a huge issue, since
> this customer had been told this was a trial situation anyway, because
> of the beta nature of the release.
> Given the huge amount of resources that this game appeared to take on
> our machines, I think the question my coworker asked is very valid:
> "what kind of cpu usage could i expect ?". He had already tried the
> situation and noted the usage and wanted to compare with what others had
> seen to make sure it was normal. So it seems this "14 year old wannabe
> server admin selling game servers to the 13 year olds" just got a flame
> attempt from a 9 year old. Please refrain from your ignorant, assuming
> remarks, and the world might not think of you as the arrogant prick you
> chose to be.
> "Jesus loves you, but I'll see you in hell, biotch!" - Anonymous
> Regards,
> Derek Jackson
> -----Original Message-----
> From: monthos at mx3.org [mailto:monthos at mx3.org]
> Sent: 07 April 2003 16:46
> To: bf1942 at icculus.org
> Subject: RE: [bf1942] Server Specs
> i dont know, i guess im just tired of seeing incapable people using this
> list to get there servers setup so they can become the latest game
> server hosting company that will fail in under a year. why doesnt he try
> it is all im asking...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: monthos at mx3.org [mailto:monthos at mx3.org]
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 8:39 PM
> To: bf1942 at icculus.org
> Subject: Re: [bf1942] Server Specs
> yes it will, expect it to give you about a .3 to a .5 load on a VERY
> active server on a small map (ie. worse case scenario)
> /me goes into rant mode
> also when did this list become a sort of "will my pc work!"
> i think were starting to drag the 14yr old wannabe server admins here
> selling game servers to the 13yr olds. my point being, just try to run
> the
> damn thing and tell US hot it works, thats why this list is here, to
> provide feedback on how the game works under conditions, not to ask if
> they will...
> /me ends rant
> On Sun, 6 Apr 2003, Battlefield at digitalnines.com wrote:
> > These are my box specs:
> > Intel Pentium4 2.4Ghz
> > 512K Cache
> > 533 Mhz bus speed
> > 512MB RAM
> > 80GB HDD 7200
> > Pipe: big enuf :)
> > Could this run a 16 client BF 1942 server? with expansion pack RTR?
> and
> > what kind of cpu usage could i expect ?
> >
> >

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