<snip> > > I forgot about this, I had to blindly type in stuff on the console. > -- > -zakk > zakk at timedoctor.org > Hmm, console works for me with both the sdlgl and glx renderers. Does it not work in both of them for y'all? I'm just starting up Quake and then going to console. Is that what you're doing? Thanks, Brendan