[openbox] n00b questions

[Mikael Magnusson]

nOn Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Neil Bird wrote:

> Around about 20/04/05 15:52, Mikael Magnusson typed ...
>> >  However, if I move that def. to "Frame", and click over a window
>> >  ... it /does/ work.  Seems to be just the Desktop it has an issue
>> >  with.
>>  Are you running a desktop program such as idesk, nautilus or rox etc?
>> 
> Yes, this is all under GNOME (+ nautilus).  But like I said, I've been
> able to bind button 8 before.  It's not a big issue:  that button's
> awkward to reach, so I'm unlikely to really want to use it.  I'm just a
> completist :)
>
>  [hmph - seems like 'completist' isn't a real word.  oh well]
>
>
>> >  Am I being dense here:  are all these wonderful options actually listed 
>> >  anywhere other than the code?
>>  Probably not, I'm a bit lazy :) I will try and get them documented before 
>>  3.3 though.
>
> :) 
>
>
>> >  I'll stop asking stupid questions, now :-)
>
> No I won't ;)
>>  4. When I lower, raise or move windows with a keybinding, focus
>>  doesn't follow the mouse!
>>  This is a feature, how large is the chance that the mouse
>>  accidentally enters a window you want to focus when you move or
>>  lower/raise something?
>
>  I'm not arguing the point (although the reason I think it causes /me/ 
> slight problems is that with a focus-follows-mouse mentality, it's always 
> assumed that wherever the mouse is, that's where the focus is.  I keep 
> falling foul of that [i.e., don't think to check the window title colour]).
>
>  What I've done for me is patch wmctrl to accept :POINTER: as a window 
> designator, and I've added 'wmctrl -a :POINTER:' as a second action to those 
> events that cause me grief (closure, desktop movement, etc.).
>
>  Which leads me to:  it seems to not be possible to /focus/ a window without 
> /raising/ it (_NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW).  Is that a deliberate design feature? 
> It's arguably the rational thing to do upon remote requests. Again, not a 
> major issue, but it would be nice to be able to change focus /without/ 
> raising;  I don't see a clean way of doing it within the OB config. itself, 
> though, as it's not till after the action's complete that you can then try to 
> refocus.
>
>  Guess I could do something nasty in a small app. like move the pointer to 
> 0,0 briefly then back to where it was, thereby triggering a 'natural' refocus 
> within OB ...

If you just want to do some hackery for yourself, you can remove the stuff 
in start_user_action or whatever it's called.

--
Mikael Magnusson