On 18 Jul 2003 08:49:04 -0400, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper <vR at movingparts.net> wrote: >> Please answer - is _this_ message visible? :) > please define visible. =;) I can't see it if my computer's off.... Readable :) Seriously - I mistrust maillists. Slightly. Some of that glitchy progs very like to swallow first message(s). -- WBR, AD