http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=852 ------- Additional Comments From charliekunkel@hotmail.com 2003-08-20 00:15 ------- omg that fixed it. I uninstalled, deleted remaining directory, re-ran the install, but installed it to c:\GtkRadiant and now it all works beuatifully. :):):)