[Gtkradiant] Game Support

[Craig Urquhart]

But it's worth considering because VISE is free for shareware/freeware
projects, unlike InstallShield. I think IDSoftware even use VISE. I wonder
how easy it would be to port it all to VISE?

Perhaps you misunderstood me about supporting games. I meant that you
should ask developers for help before their games are released.

UGG.

At 05:52 PM 7/05/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Setup scripts are using InstallShield 6.0. No way we are going to use
>something else anytime soon. The setup code was nearly completely
>rewritten for 1.2, took us enough effort to know that we don't want to do
>this again before a while. It's based on 'template' IS files, which are
>processed by some perl scripts and turned into usable IS scripts. This way
>we build on-demand setups with the game packs we want.
>
>We don't work on support for games that are not out yet because:
>- as long as it's not officially out, the precise mapping info about the
>game is not available obviously.
>- we are an entity officially supported by Id software, we are not going
>to release hacked q3map compilers (such as forcing the BSP version to
>something else) which break the EULAs and stuff.
>
>As for JKII specifics, I don't know cause I don't have looked at anything
>yet. I plan on finishing 1.3 merge in before looking at it.
>
>TTimo
>
>On Wed, 08 May 2002 01:27:30 +1000
>Craig Urquhart <cwu@optushome.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Anyone working on support for Elite Force? Maybe that could be my first
>> project. :-)
>> 
>> I have an old version of InstallShield Express but that probably won't be
>> useful, will it? Any chance that you will change to MindVison VISE in
future? 
>> 
>> The only thing that I can't figure out about the JK2 pack is the media. Why
>> is it even there, and what is required? Also, why are there two
shaderlists?
>> 
>> You could even start planning for SOF2 support now. It should be very
>> similiar to JK2.
>> 
>> UGG.
>> 
>> 
>> At 09:36 AM 7/05/02 -0400, you wrote:
>> >1. fs_basepath is hard coded in the editor... I'm working to bypass it
now,
>> >and I have, but there are other fish to fry as well.
>> >
>> >2. JK2 is being patched in to the editor as I write, but the utilmate goal
>> >here is not to add JK2... it's to add any and many Quake engine games.
If it
>> >takes time, it's beacuse the developers who have been here before me
did not
>> >have the time to do this and all the rest. Now before writing 1 single
line
>> >of code, I had to basically read all of it as well in order to understand
>> >how the game interfaces into the editor.
>> >
>> >It will be done as soon as it's done, but fear not, JK2 is here to
stay, and
>> >what I'm doing now will hopefully insure that something like EF2 is
>> >functional in the editor the day it reaches the store shelves.
>> >
>> >riant
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Timothee Besset" <ttimo@idsoftware.com>
>> >To: <gtkradiant@zerowing.idsoftware.com>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 6:12 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [Gtkradiant] Game Support
>> >
>> >
>> >> Things can certainly move faster when there are more developers. The
fact
>> >> that Riant has been working on this already doesn't prevent you from
doing
>> >> some stuff too. If you have install shield for instance, you can work on
>> >> updating the setup script for 1.2.8 to add the JKII game pack.
>> >>
>> >> TTimo
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, 07 May 2002 13:37:28 +1000
>> >> Craig Urquhart <cwu@optushome.com.au> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > G'day,
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm interested in GtkRadaint development, especially adding support
for
>> >> > Raven's games. Could someone please summarize what is required to add
>> >> > support for a new game. Also, what is a good compiler to use if you
>> >don't
>> >> > have MSVC6.
>> >> >
>> >> > TTimo, I knew that Jedi Outcast support was being worked on before I
>> >made
>> >> > my patch, but frankly it's taking too long. There are desperate
editors
>> >out
>> >> > there, including me! :-) I don't understand why GtkRadiant releases
>> >can't
>> >> > be synced with game releases.
>> >> >
>> >> > Btw, how do I stop "-fs_basepath" from being added to the BSP paths.
>> >Jedi
>> >> > Outcast's sof2map quits when it's there. I'd also like to remove the
>> >> > "junk.txt" path too so that stats appear on screen.
>> >> >
>> >> > Finally, why was the version number for project settings changed to
3 in
>> >> > 1.2.6? It looks likes the same format as version 2.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers!
>> >> > UGG.
>> >> >
>> >> >
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