Ok, I updated the setup: This one has GtkRadiant core 1.2.1 and Q3 game pack This q3map is a release build of ydnar's patches + source update from Id + -game switch in preparation for Wolf http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/nightly/GtkRadiantSetup-1.2.1-nightly-01042002.exe The q3map definitely needs to be tested. TTimo