[cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC
John Kennington
jwkennington at gmail.com
Mon Oct 19 09:12:29 EDT 2009
Actually, I believe it comes down to both PC game buyers and PC game GSPs.
What would happen if every GSP told Activision that as of November 22, none
of them will run any Activision game and they will encourage all of their
customers to not buy any Activision game? I have boycotted Sierra Games for
years. I can always add another company. Until they realize that their
customer base has expectations (no one has any rights here, it is
expectation) they will continue to not support the PC community. They will,
in the near future, cease all PC support for all games. It is the wave of
the future. We could see the writing on the wall years ago with CoD3. So,
yes, we can not buy the game. But we all have to accept the fact that Game
designers will move away from PC as quickly as they can because the REAL
money is in console. If you cancel your PC preorder, cancel your console
order as well. That is the only way they will listen.
John
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:03 AM, James Landi <jim at landi.net> wrote:
> It comes down to PC customers buying only games from companies that wish to
> support their platform of choice. Do we really want a game from a dev/pub
> who can't be bothered, won't listen, doesn't take feedback from it's
> customers, with the platform you choose to base your business model off of
> and our choice to play on?
> We've all been fighting for Linux Dedicated servers for MOH and COD because
> that is the most profitable and reliable to GSPs and their customers.
>
> I've always said to the developers and publishers, if you can't be bothered
> to offer the support and features the customer wants in (fill in game name
> here) then please don't try and offer me something I can't use and more so
> don't want. Between the so called piracy issues and "consoles sell a lot
> more then PC's." ,why even bother selling us a PC version? It has to be
> making them something thus they keep doing it.
>
> I'll tell you this, if they do discontinue the CoD franchise on the PC,
> they will loose out on more then just PC sales. They will loose great
> coders and modders from the community, in which they have hired for their
> current roster. They will loose out on the ideas that modders have put into
> their games, they will loose a very large community of support in which case
> they do not have to offer themselves. They loose a lot more then sales
> alone.
>
> This is either an uneducated guess or a way to exit the PC gaming market
> completely. I say if they want to exit the PC gaming market then just do it.
> I would rather move on then be strung along over the years. I'm tired of
> trying to plead with them that we need this and or that, so they can be
> successful and we can be happy and enjoy playing their games.
>
> Right now all I can see is this will create a piracy frenzy for the SP
> because no one will be buying a CoD game, for their half assed idea of
> online multiplayer.
>
> Jim Landi
> Rudedog
> FPSadmin.com
> Microsoft MVP, Games for Windows
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> Caleb Stephens wrote:
>
>> Lets not forget, the only thing this strategy is going to do is sell
>> consoles and put GSP's and all of the fringe projects out of business long
>> term. Not to mention data centers.
>>
>> This isn't IW's strategy. This wreaks of antitrust violation from you
>> know who. GSP's need to be up in arms.
>>
>>
>>
>> Open source is a great idea. But anyone care to guess how much it costs
>> to develop a game like COD4/MW2? We're consumers. Opensource will never
>> provide that.
>>
>> MaydaX - great - where do we get pre-order cancellation numbers? - good
>> point re duplication, but accurate enough.
>>
>>
>> Businesses that don't listen to their customers fail. Or should.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:25 AM, escapedturkey <
>> escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I completely understand that we vote with our dollars. That's
>> why I'm advocating we go the open-source route or support a
>> developer / publisher that will support us back -- i.e. Valve's
>> Source engine. Begging Activision/IW seems a bit demeaning and
>> giving them too much power. The communities need to lead our hobby
>> not the corporations. Perhaps I'm not making my opinion clear. Sorry.
>>
>> Caleb Stephens wrote:
>>
>> Over reliance? This isn't about reliance. We vote with our
>> dollars. Corporate strategy is measured in profitability.
>>
>> These petitions won't do anything other than give a head count
>> number showing the impact of this corp strategy.
>>
>> This is a huge petition w/ over 50K signatures already
>> collected (approx $3.5M of value zapped out of the entire
>> supply chain):
>>
>> http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw
>>
>> It seems to be collecting 2k sigs per hour.
>>
>> We need a list to track all the lists. LOL
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>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:24 AM, escapedturkey
>> <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
>> <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>
>> <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
>> <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>>> wrote:
>>
>> *Stands up to podium*
>>
>> *Clears throat*
>>
>> *Drinks a sip of water*
>>
>> As far as petitions and ranting goes, I think as a
>> community we need
>> to show a bit of self-respect. All this pleading and
>> begging just
>> shows an over reliance on a corporation's decision making
>> on the
>> state of our gaming experience. We need to re-focus this
>> energy into
>> alternatives that will make us less dependent on the "suits"
>> determining the direction of our favorite hobby.
>>
>> Does anyone else agree or am I alone in my opinion?
>>
>> *Stands down from podium*
>>
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