[cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC

James Landi jim at landi.net
Mon Oct 19 09:03:26 EDT 2009

It comes down to PC customers buying only games from companies that wish 
to support their platform of choice.  Do we really want a game from a 
dev/pub who can't be bothered, won't listen, doesn't take feedback from 
it's customers, with the platform you choose to base your business model 
off of and our choice to play on? 

We've all been fighting for Linux Dedicated servers for MOH and COD 
because that is the most profitable and reliable to GSPs and their 

I've always said to the developers and publishers, if you can't be 
bothered to offer the support and features the customer wants in  (fill 
in game name here) then please don't try and offer me something I can't 
use and more so don't want.   Between the so called piracy issues and 
"consoles sell a lot more then PC's." ,why even bother selling us a PC 
version?  It has to be making them something thus they keep doing it.

I'll tell you this, if they do discontinue the CoD franchise on the PC, 
they will loose out on more then just PC sales.  They will loose great 
coders and modders from the community, in which they have hired for 
their current roster.  They will loose out on the ideas that modders 
have put into their games, they will loose a very large community of 
support in which case they do not have to offer themselves.  They loose 
a lot more then sales alone.

This is either an uneducated guess or a way to exit the PC gaming market 
completely. I say if they want to exit the PC gaming market then just do 
it.  I would rather move on then be strung along over the years.  I'm 
tired of trying to plead with them that we need this and or that, so 
they can be successful and we can be happy and enjoy playing their games.

Right now all I can see is this will create a piracy frenzy for the SP 
because no one will be buying a CoD game, for their half assed idea of 
online multiplayer.

Jim Landi
Microsoft MVP, Games for Windows


Caleb Stephens wrote:
> Lets not forget, the only thing this strategy is going to do is sell 
> consoles and put GSP's and all of the fringe projects out of business 
> long term.  Not to mention data centers.
> This isn't IW's strategy.  This wreaks of antitrust violation from you 
> know who.  GSP's need to be up in arms.
> Open source is a great idea.  But anyone care to guess how much it 
> costs to develop a game like COD4/MW2?  We're consumers.  Opensource 
> will never provide that.
> MaydaX - great - where do we get pre-order cancellation numbers? - 
> good point re duplication, but accurate enough.
> Businesses that don't listen to their customers fail.  Or should.
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 5:25 AM, escapedturkey 
> <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com 
> <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>> wrote:
>     Yes, I completely understand that we vote with our dollars. That's
>     why I'm advocating we go the open-source route or support a
>     developer / publisher that will support us back -- i.e. Valve's
>     Source engine. Begging Activision/IW seems a bit demeaning and
>     giving them too much power. The communities need to lead our hobby
>     not the corporations. Perhaps I'm not making my opinion clear. Sorry.
>     Caleb Stephens wrote:
>         Over reliance?  This isn't about reliance.  We vote with our
>         dollars.  Corporate strategy is measured in profitability.
>         These petitions won't do anything other than give a head count
>         number showing the impact of this corp strategy.
>         This is a huge petition w/ over 50K signatures already
>         collected (approx $3.5M of value zapped out of the entire
>         supply chain):
>         http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw
>         It seems to be collecting 2k sigs per hour.
>         We need a list to track all the lists.  LOL
>         On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:24 AM, escapedturkey
>         <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>
>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
>         <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>>> wrote:
>            *Stands up to podium*
>            *Clears throat*
>            *Drinks a sip of water*
>            As far as petitions and ranting goes, I think as a
>         community we need
>            to show a bit of self-respect. All this pleading and
>         begging just
>            shows an over reliance on a corporation's decision making
>         on the
>            state of our gaming experience. We need to re-focus this
>         energy into
>            alternatives that will make us less dependent on the "suits"
>            determining the direction of our favorite hobby.
>            Does anyone else agree or am I alone in my opinion?
>            *Stands down from podium*
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