[cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC
escapedturkey
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Sun Oct 18 08:49:02 EDT 2009
The alternative is to combine forces and work on some sort of
modification that does something similar or better. Source is a good
well supported engine. Perhaps a modification that is as good or better
than MW2. There are a lot of possibilities. I would rather see all this
energy put something toward the community that is productive instead of
being angry about a developer's decision. It's just not worth the time
nor effort to get upset about this. Just my opinion.
Marco Padovan wrote:
> This is not a bug... it's a deliberated choice they made themself
> without even asking to the GSP what they think about that...
>
> Seriosly... till now they just "sopported" us no... SUPPORTED.... they
> just released linux dedi because many ppl were asking for them.... and
> there wouldn't be so many dedicated gameservers up without linux
> binaries....
>
> I can understand the piracy problem.... steam can help solving
> that........ but what's the point in removing dedicated servers??? most
> of the succesfull steam games have linux binaries you can download and
> put up completly for free (and with no delay from the release date!) via
> steam!!!
>
> will see what will happens... but currently the best things to do IMHO
> is to support ourself and not IW... we need to keep selling
> gameservers... if a game needs no gameservers we have absolutely no
> interest in helping/supporting it...
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM, escapedturkey
> <escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
> <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>> wrote:
>
> It's not what said but rather how it's said. Boycotts, flaming, and
> the constant bashing of the developer doesn't help anyone. It
> wouldn't surprise me if this is the reaction -- they boycott us now.
> Reporting bugs and issues in a civilized manner is the best
> approach. Praising them for good works is also helpful. I'm not
> saying to "kiss butt", however I am saying that being respectful
> goes a long way. I remember speaking to Mr. Zampella years ago (via
> Gamespy Arcade) and he was expressing frustration with the approach
> many give when reporting issues -- the constant yelling, flaming,
> and anger. He stated they react more positively to encouraging bug
> reports and ones that are approached intelligently.
>
> As to premium support, you don't have to buy the game to host a
> server for it. The dedicated servers don't cost us anything to run.
> Linux support is even "more free" due to the fact that the Linux OS
> doesn't require a license. IW isn't requiring royalties from each
> GSP running a server.
>
>
>
>
>
> Matt | Pointy BestGN wrote:
>
> The problem isn't in the complaining, because all the complaints are
> justified: promises broken, one after the other... should we
> simply stand by
> and pat them on the back and say 'it's ok'?
> farrrk that!
>
> We pay a premium price for game releases these days, and in
> doing so should
> get a premium product, not one that limits your MP experience to
> a users
> home connection as the proposed IWnet bullshit does.
>
> What moron at IW sat there and said 'Hey, I think the PC
> community needs
> this (IW net)'
>
> Interviews and balls of steel aside... IW needs a bullet!
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: escapedturkey [mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com
> <mailto:escapedturkey at escapedturkey.com>] Sent: Sunday, October
> 18, 2009 11:03 PM
> To: Call of Duty server admin list.
> Subject: Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent, Modern Warfare 2 on the PC
>
>
> I'm wondering if this is IW's reaction to a lot complaining
> about late Linux binaries, lack of support, etc. I've been
> concerned about all the complaining because sometimes a
> developer will just go "Forget this, too much hassle, not worth
> all the complaining to income ratio" and simply focus on console
> only and/or drop said community entirely. I've seen developers
> forums such down due to too much complaining (see Raven
> Software). I understand that we pay for a product and want the
> best support possible, but all jeers and no cheers may turn the
> developer off from our communities.
>
> Marco Padovan wrote:
>
> finally it happened.
>
> LOL @ to the ppl who said support ryan, support IW....
> that's how they are thanking you!!!
>
> Now everybody (league admins included) have to do their best
> to hold people on OLD cod releases (cod4 mainly) so that
> NOBODY will play on their damn iw.net <http://iw.net>
> <http://iw.net> crap.....
>
> we will see how much GSP couted on making a game succesfull!!!
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Richard GrosJean
> <richard.grosjean at gmail.com
> <mailto:richard.grosjean at gmail.com>
> <mailto:richard.grosjean at gmail.com
> <mailto:richard.grosjean at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> What a joke. This can't be happening.
>
> /signed the petition.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, pet <games at maxrate.pl
> <mailto:games at maxrate.pl>
> <mailto:games at maxrate.pl <mailto:games at maxrate.pl>>> wrote:
>
> so do I
>
> Georgecooldude pisze:
>
> Isn't 402 going to get in trouble for announcing
> this?
> I've added my name to that petition.
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:21 AM, l8rg8r
> <l8rg8r at gmail.com <mailto:l8rg8r at gmail.com>
> <mailto:l8rg8r at gmail.com
> <mailto:l8rg8r at gmail.com>> <mailto:l8rg8r at gmail.com
> <mailto:l8rg8r at gmail.com>
> <mailto:l8rg8r at gmail.com
> <mailto:l8rg8r at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>
> flashbacks of sof3, make it stop
>
> Schlup wrote:
>
>
> I couldn't agree more and you make a VERY
> valid
> point. There
> is a petition started up, maybe it will
> make it to over
> 100,000 signed, that would really make
> them rethink
>
> their
>
> decision. You can find it here and tell
> everybody you
> know to
> sign it.
>
>
> http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw
>
> Thanks,
>
> Schlup
>
> BulletProof Nerds Gaming Community
>
> www.bulletproofnerds.com
> <http://www.bulletproofnerds.com>
> <http://www.bulletproofnerds.com>
> <http://www.bulletproofnerds.com/>
>
>
> *From:* Steven Hartland
> [mailto:killing at multiplay.co.uk
> <mailto:killing at multiplay.co.uk>
>
> <mailto:killing at multiplay.co.uk <mailto:killing at multiplay.co.uk>>
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> <mailto:killing at multiplay.co.uk>
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> *Sent:* Saturday, October 17, 2009 10:05 PM
> *To:* Call of Duty server admin list.
> *Subject:* Re: [cod] Sorry have to vent,
> Modern
> Warfare 2 on
> the PC
>
> The IW forms have gone mad about this, and
> rightly so.
>
> I hope they realise what a huge mistake no
> dedicated
> server is
> and fix it BEFORE release.
>
> Delay the game if they have to, but
> release without a
> dedicated server and as rightly mentioned
> on that
> cast, they
> should rename it to Airborne 2 as its
> going to fail
> just as badly.
>
> Do they really not realise that you need a
> dedicated
> server to
> ensure good performance, I mean seriously?
>
> Yer play around with noddy console like
> match making
> systems
> which never work as well as the standard
> server
> browser, if
> you have to, but FTLOG do so with a
> dedicated server
> backing
> it up; so at least people don't suffer
> because of
> crappy hosts
> and lack of bandwidth. Its not like a PC
> release can
>
> even
>
> guarantee the CPU performance of a host, like
> consoles can due
> to their standardisation.
>
> Regards
>
> Steve
>
>
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