[cod] Ventrilo 3 Linux server

[Tyson]

The few bans that happened were lifted after a few players figured out what
caused it. A couple members of PunksBusted.com staff actually use the client
in their clans and as soon as they got PB Kicked for it and figured out why
they got Even Balance to recall that violation number that Mumble was
throwing to keep a lot of innocent players from getting banned as the kick
number was in the violation range of cheats. The overlay is/was using a
known cheat hook method.

And yes Mumbles response was "Disable it" because the client is used more by
gamers in non protected games then it was by users of PB protected games and
they didn't want to "lose significant users over a non issue".

I'll ask around PunksBusted staff that use it and see what happened.


Tyson



-----Original Message-----
From: Einar S. Idsø [mailto:einar.cod at norsk-esport.no] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:53 AM
To: Call of Duty server admin list.
Subject: Re: [cod] Ventrilo 3 Linux server

Are we actually talking about PB *bans* because of this overlay, or
just PB kicks? If
people are banned for using the overlay, then it should most certainly
be disabled by
default or for those games. Leaving it enabled if it can lead to ban
is simply not acceptable
if mumble is to gain a foothold in the gaming community.

I did some searching and it seems that PB kicks, but doesn't ban
(huuuuge difference):
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=2142129&forum_id=492607

At least one person has reported not having any issues at all with
PB-enabled COD4
servers:
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=3213398&forum_id=492607

A tip I came across in one of the threads:
"You can disable the overlay for a particular app by placing a file
named 'nooverlay' in the same directory as executable of the app."

But more relevant, from February 5th:
"Yes, I opened a ticket. It's still untouched, but someone from
EvenBalance did get in touch with me by email, and it seems the
problem is now solved :) Furthermore, I now (hopefully) have a better
way of contacting them, so we should avoid such issues in the future.
"

Cheers,
Einar

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Tyson <twisted at twistedgamingservice.com>
wrote:
> BF2 for sure and probably any other PB enabled games unless they finally
got
> it sorted. Don't use Mumble so I haven't kept up to date with it lately.
>
> I do know Even Balance was in contact with them about it and their
(mumble)
> response to players was to disable the feature for the time being, but
they
> were not willing to turn it off by default to keep it from unwillingly
> affecting players.
>
> Tyson
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Einar S. Idsø [mailto:einar.cod at norsk-esport.no]
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:18 PM
> To: Call of Duty server admin list.
> Subject: Re: [cod] Ventrilo 3 Linux server
>
> For which game(s) is this a problem?
>
> Cheers,
> Einar
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Tyson <twisted at twistedgamingservice.com>
> wrote:
>> Anything is better than Mumble right now till they get their issue with
>> being PB banned for using their overlay engine solved.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tyson
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