Yeah, I really want to know what that problem was now.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/9/10 Ceil <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ceil420@gmail.com">ceil420@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<p>My kingdom for Ryan's hard drive! :(</p>
<p>On Sep 10, 2010 1:06 AM, "Keith Z-G" <<a href="mailto:keithzg@gmail.com" target="_blank">keithzg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> The exact quote from Ryan about the middleware holding things up (I<br>
> found it via google because I remembered one of the exact phrases he<br>> said, and then just searched for exactly that and "Ryan Gordon").<br>> <br>> <a href="http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?/topic/43994-ut-3-for-linux/page__view__findpost__p__335129?s=5a35f00fa3cde4967f5f84b1ef913102" target="_blank">http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?/topic/43994-ut-3-for-linux/page__view__findpost__p__335129?s=5a35f00fa3cde4967f5f84b1ef913102</a><br>
> <br>> Here's the text of the post for those lazy / for future reference:<br>> <br>> ===================================================<br>> <br>> Posted 21 November 2007 - 04:15 PM<br>> <br>> sorry but ... linux version of UT3 maybe not on this year<br>
> <br>> While hanging out on IRC, I asked the big question of the day, "Has<br>> anyone heard from Icculus on the UT3 server or client?" Here's the<br>> dialog that resulted from the question:<br>
> <br>> <icculus> it's stuck in legal<br>> <augustus> Legal? Seriously? Have you had legal involved in previous games?<br>> <icculus> Not like this, no<br>> <icculus> There's some issues with middleware<br>
> <augustus> so is the hold-up indefinite?<br>> <icculus> augustus: not indefinite<br>> <icculus> augustus: the politics should be worked out for the server<br>> soon, I'm removing the offending piece of code.<br>
> <augustus> icculus: And the client?<br>> <icculus> augustus: that's going to take somewhat longer<br>> <augustus> icculus: From the sound of it, there is no ETA then?<br>> <icculus> augustus: I'm not committing to one<br>
> <augustus> icculus: I understand. Seems like it's quite out of your hands.<br>> <icculus> If I told you what the specific problem is, you wouldn't believe me<br>> * icculus declines to say more. :)<br>
> <br>> And, while I had his attention, I had to ask: "Are you doing a Gears<br>> of War port?"<br>> <icculus> augustus: for Mac OS X, yes.<br>> <augustus> icculus: Linux no then?<br>
> <icculus> augustus: There's something about a Linux port that the<br>
> Gears publisher doesn't like...can't quite put my finger on it...<br>> <augustus> icculus: I was afraid of that.<br>> <augustus> icculus: Funny that Mac isn't a competitor but Linux is.<br>
> <icculus> I don't speak for Microsoft, but I assume it's just company<br>> policy to not do anything Linux related.<br>> <br>> :(<br>> <br>> ===============================================<br>
> <br>> A slightly personal note: What I guess was some time ago, Ryan ported<br>> Prey over to Linux. I had bought Prey but, after playing it a tad,<br>> never finished it since I couldn't really bring myself to boot into<br>
> Windows. His port of Prey gave me the opportunity to actually play<br>> through the game I had bought without having to basically disconnect<br>> (via booting into Windows) the central point of my home network, ie. I<br>
> actually got around to playing through it. Without Ryan's work I<br>> would have wasted my money in buying that game. I sent him off an<br>> e-mail thanking him, and he responded promptly and positively. If<br>
> there's any fundamental tragedy here it's that Ryan's work on UT3 has<br>> been lost----he's a good guy as far as I can tell, and a hell of a<br>> programmer, but because of absurd legal permutations his work is never<br>
> going to see the light of day, and we're never going to get to enjoy<br>> it. It's a fucking shame, and I don't believe for a second that Ryan<br>> is at any fault here; he's been screwed over just like the rest of us.<br>
> <br>> But hey, we've got a hell of an off-topic discussion board out of it! ;)<br>> <br>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Ryan Barton <<a href="mailto:debian.moment@gmail.com" target="_blank">debian.moment@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Ah yes sorry I was fuzzy on the details<br>>><br>>> On 09/08/2010 09:05 AM, Valeriy wrote:<br>>><br>>> If you mean this<br>>> <a href="http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODI1OA" target="_blank">http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODI1OA</a><br>
>> Then it's not Mark Rein, but, yeah, it's canned for a long time anyway.<br>>> Though I wish Epic could say "never" instead of "unlikely" :(<br>>><br>>> 2010/9/8 Ryan Barton <<a href="mailto:debian.moment@gmail.com" target="_blank">debian.moment@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>><br>>>> For those of you who missed it, mark rein told phoronix ut3 for linux is<br>>>> canned. Phoronix likes to make things up but this time I believe him.<br>>>><br>>>> On Sep 8, 2010 12:41 AM, "Daniel Eckl" <<a href="mailto:daniel.eckl@gmx.de" target="_blank">daniel.eckl@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>>>> In this case, you failed epically. Never saw such a great discussion<br>>>> on this list with good infos and great mood.<br>>>><br>>>> 2010/9/8 Clayton <<a href="mailto:wellsfrago@gmail.com" target="_blank">wellsfrago@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>><br>>>> > I am very entertained that I started this stupid flare up<br>>>><br>>>> _______________________________________________ ut3 mailing list<br>>>> <a href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org" target="_blank">ut3@icculus.org</a> <a href="http://icculus.org/." target="_blank">http://icculus.org/.</a>..<br>
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