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If I were Ryan, I'd probably be bitter enough to just delete the
whole thing. Sinking that much effort into a product that can't be
released must be very frustrating. Well, s/must\ be/must\ have\
been/ , as I'm sure he's over it by now. I think I saw a pro Mark
Rein twitter post from Ryan when Epic announced that they were
moving into the iPhone market with Apple's new Game Center, or
whatever it's called.<br>
<br>
That reminds me that I need to quit goofing around with UT modding
and learn how to hack on this new Android phone. Anyone need an
old-and-hog-slow-under-iOS4 iPhone 3G?<br>
<br>
-Rob<br>
<br>
On 09/10/10 09:21, Ceil wrote:
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<p>My kingdom for Ryan's hard drive! :(</p>
<p>On Sep 10, 2010 1:06 AM, "Keith Z-G" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:keithzg@gmail.com">keithzg@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
> The exact quote from Ryan about the middleware holding
things up (I<br>
> found it via google because I remembered one of the exact
phrases he<br>
> said, and then just searched for exactly that and "Ryan
Gordon").<br>
> <br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?/topic/43994-ut-3-for-linux/page__view__findpost__p__335129?s=5a35f00fa3cde4967f5f84b1ef913102">http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?/topic/43994-ut-3-for-linux/page__view__findpost__p__335129?s=5a35f00fa3cde4967f5f84b1ef913102</a><br>
> <br>
> Here's the text of the post for those lazy / for future
reference:<br>
> <br>
> ===================================================<br>
> <br>
> Posted 21 November 2007 - 04:15 PM<br>
> <br>
> sorry but ... linux version of UT3 maybe not on this year<br>
> <br>
> While hanging out on IRC, I asked the big question of the
day, "Has<br>
> anyone heard from Icculus on the UT3 server or client?"
Here's the<br>
> dialog that resulted from the question:<br>
> <br>
> <icculus> it's stuck in legal<br>
> <augustus> Legal? Seriously? Have you had legal
involved in previous games?<br>
> <icculus> Not like this, no<br>
> <icculus> There's some issues with middleware<br>
> <augustus> so is the hold-up indefinite?<br>
> <icculus> augustus: not indefinite<br>
> <icculus> augustus: the politics should be worked out
for the server<br>
> soon, I'm removing the offending piece of code.<br>
> <augustus> icculus: And the client?<br>
> <icculus> augustus: that's going to take somewhat
longer<br>
> <augustus> icculus: From the sound of it, there is no
ETA then?<br>
> <icculus> augustus: I'm not committing to one<br>
> <augustus> icculus: I understand. Seems like it's
quite out of your hands.<br>
> <icculus> If I told you what the specific problem is,
you wouldn't believe me<br>
> * icculus declines to say more. :)<br>
> <br>
> And, while I had his attention, I had to ask: "Are you
doing a Gears<br>
> of War port?"<br>
> <icculus> augustus: for Mac OS X, yes.<br>
> <augustus> icculus: Linux no then?<br>
> <icculus> augustus: There's something about a Linux
port that the<br>
> Gears publisher doesn't like...can't quite put my finger on
it...<br>
> <augustus> icculus: I was afraid of that.<br>
> <augustus> icculus: Funny that Mac isn't a competitor
but Linux is.<br>
> <icculus> I don't speak for Microsoft, but I assume
it's just company<br>
> policy to not do anything Linux related.<br>
> <br>
> :(<br>
> <br>
> ===============================================<br>
> <br>
> A slightly personal note: What I guess was some time ago,
Ryan ported<br>
> Prey over to Linux. I had bought Prey but, after playing it
a tad,<br>
> never finished it since I couldn't really bring myself to
boot into<br>
> Windows. His port of Prey gave me the opportunity to
actually play<br>
> through the game I had bought without having to basically
disconnect<br>
> (via booting into Windows) the central point of my home
network, ie. I<br>
> actually got around to playing through it. Without Ryan's
work I<br>
> would have wasted my money in buying that game. I sent him
off an<br>
> e-mail thanking him, and he responded promptly and
positively. If<br>
> there's any fundamental tragedy here it's that Ryan's work
on UT3 has<br>
> been lost----he's a good guy as far as I can tell, and a
hell of a<br>
> programmer, but because of absurd legal permutations his
work is never<br>
> going to see the light of day, and we're never going to get
to enjoy<br>
> it. It's a fucking shame, and I don't believe for a second
that Ryan<br>
> is at any fault here; he's been screwed over just like the
rest of us.<br>
> <br>
> But hey, we've got a hell of an off-topic discussion board
out of it! ;)<br>
> <br>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Ryan Barton <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:debian.moment@gmail.com">debian.moment@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>> Ah yes sorry I was fuzzy on the details<br>
>><br>
>> On 09/08/2010 09:05 AM, Valeriy wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> If you mean this<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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>> Then it's not Mark Rein, but, yeah, it's canned for a
long time anyway.<br>
>> Though I wish Epic could say "never" instead of
"unlikely" :(<br>
>><br>
>> 2010/9/8 Ryan Barton <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:debian.moment@gmail.com">debian.moment@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>><br>
>>> For those of you who missed it, mark rein told
phoronix ut3 for linux is<br>
>>> canned. Phoronix likes to make things up but this
time I believe him.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Sep 8, 2010 12:41 AM, "Daniel Eckl" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:daniel.eckl@gmx.de">daniel.eckl@gmx.de</a>>
wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> In this case, you failed epically. Never saw such a
great discussion<br>
>>> on this list with good infos and great mood.<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2010/9/8 Clayton <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wellsfrago@gmail.com">wellsfrago@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>>><br>
>>> > I am very entertained that I started this
stupid flare up<br>
>>><br>
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>> --<br>
>> Valeriy<br>
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