Ryan: Could you please ban this "Cube" person? Nothing but spam from him. Let us hope this action does not get held up in legal and you spend the next 2 years optimizing the mail server administration scripts. I am a fan, but if anything, your lack of any appearance on this mailing list is alienating my love of gaming. I've learned C, Perl, Ruby, PHP, Lua, a fair bit of Java, some C++, and a little Python in the time it was released for Windows to this day. I stay on this board only because, like Matt F said, it would be interesting to find out what asshole with a secret agenda spent a year keeping this game from at least 10,000 eager players. During that time, I also moved to playing games like Team Fortress 2, Half Life 2, and CounterStrike--all of which will probably have a Linux port before I die of old age. If you truly cared you'd at least give us something to know we're not left out in the cold. Remember, you get to keep doing what you do, because we love games. If you don't provide, we A) Look for Linux games elsewhere, which hurts Epic. or B) Give up gaming forever and spend a year writing articles about how the gaming industry has gone down the tubes with it's exclusive catering to Windows and how most games today barely hold their replay value like games from 10 years ago. (Which also hurts Epic.) Because I still *somewhat* love this game, I have been forced to dual-boot Windows to enjoy it's "prettyness", though it's astonishing how the minimum specs for Windows continue to climb with each unsatisfying version. Pretty soon we won't even be able to get work done the computer, we'll just be paid to sit down and diddle the stupid Windows Aero effects. We like Linux because it does what we want without some stupid Windows Media Center services hogging as much as 50MB of RAM like 20 other hidden services. We all looked forward to this game because of how it would lighten our moods and ease the stress of work, or just to have fun with our friends on a Friday night with a projector screen. ut2004 did that for us over all this time, why is ut3 different? It's done nothing by drive what business you helped Epic gain from that game, away.<div>
<br></div><div>Plain and simple, it hurts the industry more than it hurts the players. It would be nice to know the industry is listening.<br><br></div><div><br></div><div>PS: Keith Z-G: I heard Rage was over a terabyte in size, and the video looks amazing. The id Tech engines are never really known for *spectacular* graphics like the Unreal Engine, but it's definitely got my vote over this vaporware. The only thing that makes me nervous is that on the Wikipedia article, one of the developers or managers (or someone in charge), said that Linux would not be a release platform. I just hope it won't follow in the footsteps of this port. If you've heard different, I would like to know what info you've come across. :></div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Cube <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wellsfrago@gmail.com">wellsfrago@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<a href="http://www.shareasale.com/r.cfm?B=44&U=372208&M=47" target="_blank">http://www.shareasale.com/r.cfm?B=44&U=372208&M=47</a><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Валерий <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jazzvoid@gmail.com" target="_blank">jazzvoid@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">Maybe because Prey is using same engine, which was already ported to Linux (Doom 3, Quake 4) and using pure openGL instead of DirectX, etc. Open-sourcing id Tech 4 would result only in ragdoll-featured open-source engine, but I don't think that it will go further than Tremulous on Doom 3 engine.<br>
<br>I think UT3 is the last game that is going to be ported to Linux until next UE tech-demo (I wonder if UT3 is using 3.5 engine after 2.0 patch or something?). Maybe ported UE3 will trigger few other games being ported, but seems that no one is interested anymore (2 years of porting is the matter of possibility, but not good for consumable product).<br>
<br>If we'll get Unreal Editor ported too, we'll get few Linux-user-made mods but nothing more. Enjoy your Quake Live :)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2009/8/31 Keith Z-G <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:keithzg@gmail.com" target="_blank">keithzg@gmail.com</a>></span><div>
<div></div><div><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">At this rate it seems like Rage is going to be released, patched a few<br>
times, then Carmack is going to get bored some day, port Rage and all<br>
of Tech 5 to Linux, release it, and eventually open source it all<br>
before the UT3 Linux client gets released. Okay, admittedly that<br>
probably won't happen now that ZeniMax bought up id Software (so he<br>
might not even be able to make good on his promise to eventually<br>
release Tech 4), but really now. Ryan himself has had time to port an<br>
entire other game (Prey) in the meantime while UT3 sits in limbo!<br>
<br>
Personally though I *do* think that it matters if the port is<br>
completed, since in theory that'd mean that UE3 would be ported to<br>
Linux and thus future games could be released/ported, even if no one<br>
is playing UT3 by that point. Of course, often these games aren't<br>
even being ported to *Windows*, but you catch my drift.<br>
<br>
Oh well, back to playing Quake Live.<br>
<br>
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:37 AM, max<<a href="mailto:andoria@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">andoria@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br>
> Epic fail<br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
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> Subject: Re: [ut3] Linux Client<br>
> 2009/8/28 Ezekiel Grave <<a href="mailto:ezekiel@ripmetopieces.net" target="_blank">ezekiel@ripmetopieces.net</a>><br>
>><br>
>> We've been lead to believe that it is NOT the developer's fault (or a lack<br>
>> of developer availability). So throwing more bodies at it wouldn't help<br>
>> (even if you are just making a joke).<br>
><br>
> The main problem that there is no progress-tracking available. We don't even<br>
> know what's going on.<br>
> If there would be a bit more public information, it would be much easier to<br>
> take.<br>
>><br>
>> " Want to Believe"<br>
><br>
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