Well, I've yet to see anyone reply to him to argue with him about it. He's just assuming that anyone that thinks ill of him also believes that ATI walk around in gold slippers.<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Kingster <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kingster@unrealplayground.com">kingster@unrealplayground.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Does it really matter? The chumps holding on to the ATI/Nvidia
fight, or the AMD/Intel fight need to move on. As far as I can tell, you're
the only one around doing that "UndeadDevil's Shadow".
Who cares. If AMD/ATI is dead, then so be it, but we don't need you
telling us. I think what the argument was is that ATI has done a better
job of opening their drivers up for the Linux community than has Nvidia, and
then you go spouting all this crap. Thanks! We would have never realized
that we needed to pipe your drivel to /dev/null without it. And Duke3D on
10Base2? I was running an ISP at that time. But, congrats. I'm
surprised you've lived this long, especially with that attitude.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">There are plenty of good people that are listening here, for
something other than what you're spouting.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">So. Now… Either contribute something useful to
the list, or STFU. Please.</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> UndeadDevil's
Shadow [mailto:<a href="mailto:shadow@s-i-g-m-a.net" target="_blank">shadow@s-i-g-m-a.net</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 23, 2009 7:42 AM<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org" target="_blank">ut3@icculus.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its been delayed</div></div></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">God, I should go even further, your saying I'm young, I
played Duke3D on a 10mbps Co-Ax, did you? <b>You're not even mature
enough to admit that ATI and AMD have died</b> (Proven fact by Stocks let alone
sales of CPU's and GPU's, not even the 4700 has saved ATi) Good
riddance is what a good 60-70% of the world is saying.... at least they should
be.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Those who don't believe me here you go...</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">ATi have 19% market share according to Steam, nVidia is 41%
(Added it up from DX10 GPU's + DX9 Shader Model 2b and DX9 Shader Model
2, have you guys not seen the Steam Hardware Survey?)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">nVidia won, why can't ATi idiots accept this? I'll
leave them to this, I just hope they shut up and actually read evidence before
arguing with me again...</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Here's the Steam Hardware Survey for those who still
reckon ATi still exists....</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"><a href="http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey" target="_blank">http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey</a></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> UndeadDevil's
Shadow [mailto:<a href="mailto:shadow@s-i-g-m-a.net" target="_blank">shadow@s-i-g-m-a.net</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 23 February 2009 13:30<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org" target="_blank">ut3@icculus.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its been delayed</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">I'm probably older than you...... And btw Blackberry
sucks, get a HTC PDA :P They can simultaneously run Windows Mobile and Google
Android :P</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">I have stated nothing but facts, ATi have never written a decent
driver in their life span, they are now a dead company desperately trying to
make up for it and gain a slight amount of the market back, etc....</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Seriously if you're in denial about ATi being a dead
company then well, you're the one who shouldn't be on this list...
At least I can state and admit to the truth...</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Go look up ATi's FTSE-100, omg sorry I forgot AMD
aren't even in the FTSE-100!!! Intel are, nVidia are, etc but no AMD or
ATi!! (Hell even my ISP is in the FTSE-100, AMD and ATi are dead fucking accept
it you twat)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a href="mailto:ceil420@gmail.com" target="_blank">ceil420@gmail.com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ceil420@gmail.com" target="_blank">ceil420@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 23 February 2009 13:27<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org" target="_blank">ut3@icculus.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its been delayed</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">There should be an age restriction on this
ML... Are you even old enough to legally acquire an M-Rated game?</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry</span></p>
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<p><b><span lang="EN-GB">From</span></b><span lang="EN-GB">:
UndeadDevil's Shadow <br>
<b>Date</b>: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:22:12 -0800<br>
<b>To</b>: <a href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org" target="_blank">ut3@icculus.org</a><<a href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org" target="_blank">ut3@icculus.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject</b>: RE: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its been delayed</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Come on nVidia guys, back me up here, we can ran BackTrack4 and
use CUDA to crack WPA2 keys within 5 mins, ATi users can't do jack shit
thanks to ATi being, well frankly, ATi lol.... nVidia offered to shared
PhysX, ATi said fuck you back to them, a user tried to port it, but ended up
failing because ATi said fuck you to him</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">ATi have always been a bad company for drivers, always will be
no matter what OS, hell even there modern drivers look like there where
designed for Windows 3.1! (You can't argue this! Just look for your
self!)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Anyone who denys that ATi have died are idiots, Steam's
Survey crap proves they have less than 20% market share (Yes that's 70%
to nVidia, nuff said!)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Grow the hell up you ATi Worshipers, how can you appreciate such
awful crap, that's all ATi have ever produced, I gave up with them after
my first ATi card, which caused me constant BSOD's in Windows XP, hell
the card wasn't even usable in Linux back then, still isn't actually
so you guys can STFU. Grow up, ATi don't give two shits about support, at
least nVidia do! nVidia's drivers = All features supported that the
Windows Drivers Support. ATi's driver = barely anything that's
supported on Windows = Sorry have ATi released there CUDA Clone yet???? OMG
they did it slightly better just to be gits.... etc.....)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Grow up, or hell flame me calling me a liar about all this ATi
stuff, i'll own you if you do, assuming your not soo up your arse that
you'll /null me because you know I'll own you or make you go mental
trying to own me fighting a cause that's already lost....</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> UndeadDevil's
Shadow [mailto:<a href="mailto:shadow@s-i-g-m-a.net" target="_blank">shadow@s-i-g-m-a.net</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 23 February 2009 13:12<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org" target="_blank">ut3@icculus.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its been delayed</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Prove to me that ATi's drivers are worth jack shit on
Linux and i'll STFU, so far Intel GMA Chipsets work better than any ATi
chipset despite the ATi chipset being 8x more powerful. Go check for yourself,
ATi have always been awful at writing drivers, if you want to argue that then
you're not worth even knowing as a human as your full of bullshit.
(Seriously, why the hell do you think ATi lost the frigging card war years ago?
Why do you think they have less than 20% market share, its DRIVERS, they
finally realised that there drivers suck a year ago or so. Finally released
ALPHA drivers that supported Compiz, well my Intel GMA 915 Chipset is more
reliable than my ATi chip on Linux, end of story. The ATi = Bullshit, Intel or
nVidia or Hell even a S3 Chipset = Decent Performance compared to the piece of
crap ATi will always come out with</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Seriously grow up and realise that ATi are now a dead company,
AMD is holding on by a little bit of thin string and they brought it on their
self's, they will never be one up over Intel ever again, and they deserve
it for buying ATi</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a href="mailto:ceil420@gmail.com" target="_blank">ceil420@gmail.com</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ceil420@gmail.com" target="_blank">ceil420@gmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 23 February 2009 13:08<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org" target="_blank">ut3@icculus.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its been delayed</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">Second that. </span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-GB">Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry</span></p>
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<p><b><span lang="EN-GB">From</span></b><span lang="EN-GB">: Daniel
Hunt <br>
<b>Date</b>: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:04:41 +0000<br>
<b>To</b>: <<a href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org" target="_blank">ut3@icculus.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [ut3] I would be happy to just know why its been delayed</span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span lang="EN-GB">I think I'll
setup a pipe to /dev/null for your useless meanderings</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:01 PM,
UndeadDevil's Shadow <<a href="mailto:shadow@s-i-g-m-a.net" target="_blank">shadow@s-i-g-m-a.net</a>>
wrote:</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-GB">ATi's drivers on Linux are /dev/null (You
wan't to argue this? Well your a twat if you do</span></p>
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