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So you're saying it's better if reasonable people don't speak up on
this list and give Ryan the false impression that every single person
"still" waiting for the Linux client is a rabid dog waiting to attack
him as soon as he shows his face? o_O These threads are the embodiment
of why we don't get active updates from him.<br>
<br>
Brizz<br>
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On 2/20/09 12:17 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ceil420@gmail.com">ceil420@gmail.com</a> wrote:
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Obviously subscribers do have a life away from UT3 - as you yourself
said, this ML is silent for months at a time. Then one user asks about
the client, and all the regulars get fired up for a few days. Then more
months of silence, and the cycle begins again. We're not here bitching
about the client every day.<br>
<br>
Then you deride the users for 'personally attacking Brizz', and in the
next breath tell them to move out of their mom's basement. What's that
all about?<br>
<br>
This mailing list is occasional therapy for angry and seemingly
abandoned linux lovers until such a time as the client is actually
released; at which time, we can have real discussion regarding the
linux client rather than cry about its unavailability. Until then, it'd
probably be best if Brizz and his ilk would lay off and let the users
vent a bit.<br>
<br>
As little as their crying is helping matters, Brizz's bitching about
their crying is only making matters worse. Let linux lovers enjoy our
rage-powered therapy for a few days of the month. Women the world over
are allowed something similar, after all ;)<br>
<br>
And now I've opened myself up to a whole new attack from the one or two
feminists subscribing to this mailing list... My work here is done. :)<br>
<p>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry</p>
<hr tabindex="-1" align="center" size="2" width="100%"><b>From</b>:
Kevin Podbielniak <k.podbielniak@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date</b>: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:57:13 -0500<br>
<b>To</b>: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org"><ut3@icculus.org></a><br>
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3<br>
Wow, it's really crazy with all the other things happening in this day
and age (economy for one), you people are still bitching about being
screwed and blaming Epic. Yes, there is no UT3 Linux client, I would
love one, but damn, it was well over 15-16 months ago, haven't you guys
moved on to something else, or does your entire life of existence live
and breath moaning and complaining about Epic screwing you out of UT3
Linux client?<br>
<br>
I find it entertaining once and a while when someone posts a "any news
about the UT3 Linux client" message, especially if a couple months go
by and this list is inactive. But once that first email comes out,
then everyone gets on their "Epic screwed us, we want our client or
money back" bandwagon, and now it appears that you guys are attacking
Sir Brizz for stating facts and reason and offering other courses of
action, but you guys just won't have it.<br>
<br>
do you know how many other games are out there that we can play, go
friggen play them! Get out of your parents basement and trade in your
copy of UT3 so you can move the F on. jeezuz.<br>
<br>
If I were Ryan, I too would ignore the bunch of whiny baby's here.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sir Brizz <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sir.brizz@gmail.com">sir.brizz@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> I'm 100% positive he is. :)
Actually, I bet that's why he made this mailing list! So he'd have a
group of people to ignore! :)<br>
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Brizz</font>
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On 2/20/09 11:14 AM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ceil420@gmail.com" target="_blank">ceil420@gmail.com</a>
wrote:
<blockquote type="cite"> The only 'official' person I've ever seen
post here is Gordon, and he's probably in hiding to avoid taking the
brunt of the users vs. Epic confrontation.<br>
<p>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry</p>
<hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"><b>From</b>: Sir Brizz <br>
<b>Date</b>: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:09:39 -0700<br>
<b>To</b>: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org" target="_blank"><ut3@icculus.org></a><br>
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3<br>
Okay, I see. :p<br>
<br>
If you ask me, these threads on this mailing list simply emphasize that
there are an unreasonably high number of unreasonable people subscribed
here, and that is probably the reason why no official people see any
reason to continue posting on here.<br>
<br>
:)<br>
<br>
Brizz<br>
<br>
On 2/20/09 10:52 AM, Daniel Eckl wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">> I'm on the wrong list because I
think it's moronic to blame somebody else for something you did
yourself?<br>
<br>
No. Not at all. It's okay when you think so. Perhaps you are even
right, who knows. I want to judge that.<br>
<br>
But face it: You can't stop it this way. You tell it every single one
who complains here, but notice that this did not stop a single one from
doing so.<br>
<br>
But notice the other thing:<br>
Normally, when one complains, perhaps one or two would join and the
subject is done again for the next few days.<br>
And now look at this thread. One was complaining, you again state your
thoughts about that and voilà! we have a 20 messages thread and still
counting.<br>
<br>
So if you really are pissed about useless mails on this list, then all
you need to do is to restrain your finger when your mouse cursor is
hovering over the reply button.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Daniel<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 18:42, Sir
Brizz <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sir.brizz@gmail.com" target="_blank">sir.brizz@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I'm
on the wrong list because I think it's moronic to blame somebody else
for something you did yourself? Okay...<br>
<br>
I want the Linux client as much as the next person and I wish Epic
could or would give better updates on it's progress (or, at leat, Ryan)
but it's pointless to sit around whining about buying the game. Call
the BBB or get over it.<br>
<font color="#888888"> <br>
Brizz</font>
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On 2/20/09 10:39 AM, David L. Willson wrote:<br>
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I must have misunderstood you. You closed your post with: "...contact
your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you<br>
have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't."<br>
<br>
Well, I'm "willing to bet" he does. Epic seems to have admitted as
much by offering the other fellow store credit.<br>
<br>
What did you mean by the words "willing to bet"?<br>
<br>
Go piss up a rope, Brizz. You're on the wrong list, as the other,
other guy said so kindly and gently.<br>
<br>
--David<br>
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From: "Sir Brizz"<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sir.brizz@gmail.com" target="_blank">sir.brizz@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org"
target="_blank">ut3@icculus.org</a><br>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:34:04 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada
Mountain<br>
Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3<br>
<br>
Why would I bet on it? Just have him go do it. If they take his case,
great, he'll get his money back and he can go blame someone else for
other crap in his life.<br>
<br>
I'm really honestly not defending Epic in this case, just because you
made a crap buying decision doesn't somehow make someone else
responsible for that. If you're mad, be mad about something real, don't
fabricate something else to make it seem like it's even worse than it
really is.<br>
<br>
If you want to complain about the fact there is no Linux client, be my
guest. But don't act like Epic put a gun to your head, walked you to
the game store, took the money out of your wallet and gave it to the
cashier then ran away clicking their heels and laughing. What's with
the desire to blame someone else for your own stupidity?<br>
<br>
Brizz<br>
<br>
On 2/20/09 10:29 AM, David L. Willson wrote:<br>
<br>
And I still think you're full of shit, Brizz. I'll take $5. If the
BBB (or equivalent) accepts his complaint and adds it to their shit
list for Epic, I win. If they feel that his complaint is baseless, you
win. Do we have a bet?<br>
<br>
--David<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Sir Brizz"<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sir.brizz@gmail.com" target="_blank">sir.brizz@gmail.com</a>>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org"
target="_blank">ut3@icculus.org</a> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009
10:11:39 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain<br>
Subject: Re: [ut3] An expansion is coming to UT3<br>
<br>
Do we need to go through this again? Purchasing something you didn't<br>
want or couldn't use is your own fault. I suggest if you are so torn up<br>
over it to contact your local Better Business Bureau and ask them if you<br>
have a case. I'm willing to bet you don't.<br>
<br>
Brizz<br>
<br>
On 2/20/09 10:04 AM, jeff wrote:<br>
<br>
I tried pretty hard, and epic told me that in good faith they would<br>
send me a sealed box that I could return to gamestop, which would only<br>
give me current value of the game or an exchange.. Which I felt wasnt<br>
fair and that I deserved full price for the game, not to mention it<br>
would be punishing the wrong people. Epic deserves to pay for this,<br>
not the retailers.<br>
<br>
Chris wrote:<br>
<br>
Has anyone managed to get their money back? I mean it has been over a<br>
year and I broke the seal on mine but I never play the game because I<br>
don't run Windows (except in a VM). My whole purchase was based on<br>
the fact that they have always released Linux versions and they said<br>
they would continue that with UT3. I want my money back.<br>
<br>
CR<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Alberto<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:albertodetena@gmail.com" target="_blank">albertodetena@gmail.com</a>>
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..........and what about a linux client I wonder?<br>
<br>
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