<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">If it was the car dealer that told me the model he was selling me had GPS, you're damned right I'd be pissed if it didn't come with one - especially if I'd already made a nonrefundable down payment (pre-order) based on the promises of said dealer.<br/><br/>I don't know if Rein or Gordon ever spoke the words themselves, but I know it was Epic staff that told us there would be a Linux port on or near release day. It wasn't just some random hopeful Linux user.<p>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry</p><p><hr size=2 width=100% align=center tabindex=-1><b>From</b>: Sir Brizz <sir.brizz@gmail.com><br><b>Date</b>: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:29:14 -0700<br><b>To</b>: <ut3@icculus.org><br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [ut3] Official release date<br></font></p> For what? They didn't market UT3 as having Linux binaries included or available.<br><br> The problem here is that Epic never guaranteed anything. I appreciate you wanting brand new boxes or whatever your case may be, however that doesn't change the fact that you bought something that didn't include the sole thing you bought it for. Can you imagine, taking this same thing to a more terrible and surely less appropriate analogy, if you bought a car because someone said it had GPS in it, never test drove it, and realized after purchasing it that it didn't have GPS in it? Would you blame the person who told you or yourself for not looking into it more?<br><br> I understand that people wanted and were expecting and (possibly) promised Linux binaries and are upset, but, frankly, you DON'T have anyone to blame but yourself if you paid the money for it already. Did Epic make you spend that money? YOU were encouraged by what they said, YOU made a decision, and YOU spent the money.<br><br> Brizz<br><br> On 2/6/09 10:14 AM, Luiz Gustavo Angelo wrote:<blockquote cite="mid:92e59dd80902060914se3d9241x814169c350034a54@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">Epic could be sued by this, couldn't ??<br> <br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Matthias Bach <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:marix@marix.org">marix@marix.org</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi!<br> <div class="Ih2E3d"><br> On Friday 06 February 2009 17:57:02 Sir Brizz wrote:<br> > And for those of you whining about how you bought the game and haven't<br> > played it because there is no Linux client, sorry but maybe you should<br> > have waited to buy it until there actually was the only thing you were<br> > buying it for? That seems like the practical thing to do in any<br> > situation.<br> <br> </div> You are missing the point. When I ordered the game there had been a statement<br> by Epic that there would be a Linux-Installer on disc, as it had been with<br> 2K4. Later they said it wouldn't be on disk, but available on the day of<br> release. Therefore, as I kind of like to have nice game boxes that I can show<br> of, I did not bother to cancel my preorder. The problem is that I trusted Epic<br> to keep to their promises.<br> <div class="Ih2E3d"><br> > Did you buy Prey the day it came out hoping that Ryan Gordon<br> > would release a Linux binary for it, too?<br> <br> </div> No I didn't, because nobody promised that Prey would be ported. When it<br> finally was ported this was a pleasent surprise.<br> <div class="Ih2E3d"><br> > If you want to be a thrifty<br> > consumer, then be thrifty. And if you aren't thrifty, don't whine that<br> > you made a mistake and try to blame it on Epic or anyone else. You don't<br> > have anyone to blame but yourselves.<br> <br> </div> Maybe I have, but then it is not for expecting Epic to make a port, but for<br> trusting Epic to deliver the software I ordered.<br> <div class="Ih2E3d"><br> > Personally, I'm sure a Linux binary will eventually come out for UT3 and<br> > when it does I will probably use it.<br> <br> </div> Maybe it will, after all it's already supposed to be done. The real question<br> is, will their still body to play against. Will the engine still be something<br> competitive to base your mods on? By the time it will probably take one could<br> just as well start writing an own engine ...<br> <br> Regards,<br> <font color="#888888">Matthias<br> </font></blockquote> </div> <br> <br clear="all"> <br> -- <br> Luiz Gustavo Angelo<br> T: +55 11 75452244<br></blockquote><br></body></html>