<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Id makes games for Linux, and I've read somewhere that Valve strives for Wine compatibility, at least. And those are just two major publishers; I'm not going to get into all the successful independent devs.<p>Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry</p><p><hr size=2 width=100% align=center tabindex=-1><b>From</b>: Sir Brizz <sir.brizz@gmail.com><br><b>Date</b>: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:50:39 -0700<br><b>To</b>: <ut3@icculus.org><br><b>Subject</b>: Re: [ut3] Official release date<br></font></p> I think you should have read past the first sentance before clicking "Reply". :p<br><br> And I quote:<br> "Actually, Linux is fine for games, games are simply not made for Linux. So if you're a PC gamer, anything but Windows is not a choice (and if you say Wine works great, I'll slap you)."<br><br> Here, let me take this down to the absolute basics so you can understand.<br><br> Linux is PERFECTLY SUITABLE for games. Games (IN GENERAL) are NOT MADE for Linux. WINDOWS is the only platform ALL MODERN PC GAMES are MADE FOR.<br><br> Hope that helps!<br> Brizz<br><br> On 2/6/09 12:47 PM, Slavik Goltser wrote:<blockquote cite="mid:3a6ee9a80902061147l3ec9acedp7a664011a4ddda77@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">Please explain how Linux is not suitable for games. You're a moron, but I won't back this statement up because somehow if you are kept being called a moron it is suddenly true. Please explain your statement that Linux is not suitable for games, I am really interested in your reasons for that statement.<br> <br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Sir Brizz <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sir.brizz@gmail.com">sir.brizz@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Yes, Linux is not suitable for games. Actually, Linux is fine for games, games are simply not made for Linux. So if you're a PC gamer, anything but Windows is not a choice (and if you say Wine works great, I'll slap you).<br> <br> Now, I do have to admit a little guilt in responding here, because I knew all you guys like to bitch and moan anytime someone comes in here that doesn't agree with you, but sorry. The reality of this situation is that you are bitter and want to blame someone other than yourselves. This is really more like if you called up the dealership, asked if the car had GPS, told no but it should be released free at some point in the future, bought the car anyway and then proceeded to complain that the GPS was still not out after a year. You bought the car despite the fact that it was missing the one thing you wanted it for, you're the one to blame in that scenario.<br> <font color="#888888"><br> Brizz</font> <div> <div class="Wj3C7c"><br> <br> On 2/6/09 10:39 AM, [FnG] Lambik wrote: <blockquote type="cite"> <div>The person that told 'It has GPS in it' happens to be the salesperson, and then yes you can expect to have GPS in it !</div> <div>Not sure what kind of point you're trying to make, but seems to me your only business here is to stir thing up,</div> <div>as you have state to play games on windows only.(Linux not suitable ??)</div> <div>Pre ordering a game has the risk of getting something that isn't quite what you expect of it, but in this case there has been promised support for linux OS aswell.</div> <div>Epic has the reputation to support linux on all UT series, which has formed a good basis of trust, which they have broken, and that is why ppl are upset with EPIC.</div> <div>That is something they have every right to.</div> <div> </div> <div>Lambik<br> <br> </div> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Sir Brizz <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sir.brizz@gmail.com" target="_blank">sir.brizz@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">For what? They didn't market UT3 as having Linux binaries included or available.<br> <br> The problem here is that Epic never guaranteed anything. I appreciate you wanting brand new boxes or whatever your case may be, however that doesn't change the fact that you bought something that didn't include the sole thing you bought it for. Can you imagine, taking this same thing to a more terrible and surely less appropriate analogy, if you bought a car because someone said it had GPS in it, never test drove it, and realized after purchasing it that it didn't have GPS in it? Would you blame the person who told you or yourself for not looking into it more?<br> <br> I understand that people wanted and were expecting and (possibly) promised Linux binaries and are upset, but, frankly, you DON'T have anyone to blame but yourself if you paid the money for it already. Did Epic make you spend that money? YOU were encouraged by what they said, YOU made a decision, and YOU spent the money.<br> <font color="#888888"><br> Brizz</font> <div> <div><br> <br> On 2/6/09 10:14 AM, Luiz Gustavo Angelo wrote: <blockquote type="cite">Epic could be sued by this, couldn't ??<br> <br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Matthias Bach <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:marix@marix.org" target="_blank">marix@marix.org</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi!<br> <div><br> On Friday 06 February 2009 17:57:02 Sir Brizz wrote:<br> > And for those of you whining about how you bought the game and haven't<br> > played it because there is no Linux client, sorry but maybe you should<br> > have waited to buy it until there actually was the only thing you were<br> > buying it for? That seems like the practical thing to do in any<br> > situation.<br> <br> </div> You are missing the point. When I ordered the game there had been a statement<br> by Epic that there would be a Linux-Installer on disc, as it had been with<br> 2K4. Later they said it wouldn't be on disk, but available on the day of<br> release. Therefore, as I kind of like to have nice game boxes that I can show<br> of, I did not bother to cancel my preorder. The problem is that I trusted Epic<br> to keep to their promises.<br> <div><br> > Did you buy Prey the day it came out hoping that Ryan Gordon<br> > would release a Linux binary for it, too?<br> <br> </div> No I didn't, because nobody promised that Prey would be ported. When it<br> finally was ported this was a pleasent surprise.<br> <div><br> > If you want to be a thrifty<br> > consumer, then be thrifty. And if you aren't thrifty, don't whine that<br> > you made a mistake and try to blame it on Epic or anyone else. You don't<br> > have anyone to blame but yourselves.<br> <br> </div> Maybe I have, but then it is not for expecting Epic to make a port, but for<br> trusting Epic to deliver the software I ordered.<br> <div><br> > Personally, I'm sure a Linux binary will eventually come out for UT3 and<br> > when it does I will probably use it.<br> <br> </div> Maybe it will, after all it's already supposed to be done. The real question<br> is, will their still body to play against. Will the engine still be something<br> competitive to base your mods on? By the time it will probably take one could<br> just as well start writing an own engine ...<br> <br> Regards,<br> <font color="#888888">Matthias<br> </font></blockquote> </div> <br> <br clear="all"> <br> -- <br> Luiz Gustavo Angelo<br> T: +55 11 75452244<br> </blockquote> <br> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br> </blockquote> <br> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br></blockquote><br></body></html>