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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>To answer people looking to Ryan for a status update. As much as
I do not agree with the business method, they do what they do. Ryan has given
updates if you guys care to look. The reason he hasn’t given an update is most
likely because there hasn’t been anything to update. I realize this kind of
sucks (I hate it to) but that’s the way it is. Everyone on this list knows their
options at this point.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Lloyd Taylor
[mailto:movablev@yahoo.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 09, 2008 9:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ut3@icculus.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ut3] Possible reason for UT3 Client delay<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>That was a very interesting
article Phoronix put up. If it's true, then fantastic.<br>
<br>
I'm not sure what to think about all this linux client hubbub, though.<br>
<br>
On the one hand, it's fairly obvious to me that whatever the delay holding up
the client is, it's still a legal issue. Whether it's the same issue as
before, and it has just escalated, or whether it's a totally new issue remains
to be seen (we might never even hear about it). If Epic were planning on
dismissing the Linux client altogether as many have suggested (due to Epic
closing down talk on their forums), the would go ahead and announce this
information. Whatever the legal issue, it's caused them to become very
tight-lipped indeed, and that probably means that they don't want to jeopardize
any progress by making some trivial slip of the tongue that will give a third
party room to sue them. This is how legal issues work in our current
lawsuit-happy system. Imagine how frustrating it must be for people
dealing with murder and rape trials who have to follow idiotic protocol just to
keep from letting someone get off free. Unfortunately, Epic's good will
towards Linux is another victim of this system.<br>
<br>
I think a more productive line of questioning is how Epic and Ryan may feel
about all the attention this client release has attracted. There are two
options I can imagine. 1) Epic/Ryan become frustrated with
angry/hostile customers who are aggressive towards them when they cannot make
comments or defend themselves in any way without risking legal exposure or
censure from the legal department, at the very least. I doubt this would
cause Ryan to stop fighting the linux fight, but it certainly must be discouraging
him. I don't want to do that.<br>
2) Epic (the management, more likely) is pleased that scrappy linux users won't
give this battle up and are chomping at the bit to hand over their money for a
product they appreciate. Such a display of fierce loyalty to linux gaming
is good, overall for the industry. After this is all through, perhaps it
will be obvious that there are tons of us who game on linux and in the end this
delay will actually help linux gaming.<br>
<br>
I think the key is here to keep up the protesting, but to do it in a polite and
respectful way. We want to encourage people like Ryan and companies like
Epic who have taken a chance on linux. We also don't want them to forget
that their customer base is still here and more than willing to pay for good
linux products.<br>
<br>
I've been looking at tons of Epic forums that have been closed for asking when
the linux client will be released / complaining about the delays. That
has legal written all over it. Every time the response is to point to the
FAQ statement below:<br>
<br>
"<b>Q: Will there be a linux or Mac version of UT3?</b><br>
A: We are currently working on a linux UT3 client that players will be able to
use with the retail Windows version. As soon as it's available we'll announce
it here. Work is also being done on a Mac retail version of UT3."<br>
<br>
They never get upset or even tell people to stop about it, oddly enough.
I did find one interesting admin reply when asked why they shut down the linux
client release date questions: "You're welcome to talk about the <span
class=highlight>linux</span> <span class=highlight>client</span>. If you're
asking when it's coming, the FAQ is up to date. *****ing about the <span
class=highlight>linux</span> <span class=highlight>client</span> not coming yet
is off topic and will be deleted. Any other <span class=highlight>linux</span> <span
class=highlight>client</span> discussions are fine."
(http://utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=610698&highlight=linux+client)<br>
<br>
So apparently they close everything asking about the client release date and
point to the FAQ above. If someone is being belligerent/complaining, they
delete it.<br>
<br>
Anyway, just some thoughts. Keep up the online presence and requests for
the client. But be nice about it.<br>
<br>
my 0.02.<br>
<br>
-lloyd<o:p></o:p></p>
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