<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">XBoxes aren't Pentium anymore. All modern consoles--PS3 (Cell), XBox 360, and Wii, use PowerPC-based processors of one flavor or another.<div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>(Which is what led to the irony of Microsoft initially requiring XBox 360 developers to use PowerMac G5s.)<br> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 17px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 17px; ">That said, I suspect the PPC Mac market for UT3 is larger than the PPC Linux market. Still small, but if a patch added to an existing product can make a Universal Binary, then I can see why the possibility is being considered.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 17px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 17px; ">(As for the number of Mac end-user, non-server, primary daily-use systems being greater than the number of Linux end-user, non-server, primary daily-use systems... probably true. HOWEVER, Linux users probably have more overlap with gamers. Luckily both platforms have Epic's support. And Ryan's!)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 14px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 17px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><b style="font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold; ">nagr</span></b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#FF0000"><b style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold; ">o</span></b></font><b style="font-weight: bold; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: bold; ">mme</span></b></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span> </div><br><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 44.0px; text-indent: -44.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="4" color="#000000" style="font: 14.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>From: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 14.0px Helvetica">"Antonio Augusto (Mancha)" <<a href="mailto:mkhaos7@gmail.com">mkhaos7@gmail.com</a>></font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 40.0px; text-indent: -40.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="4" color="#000000" style="font: 14.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Date: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 14.0px Helvetica">October 26, 2007 5:33:13 AM EDT</font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 27.0px; text-indent: -27.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="4" color="#000000" style="font: 14.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>To: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 14.0px Helvetica"><a href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org">ut3@icculus.org</a></font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 61.0px; text-indent: -61.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="4" color="#000000" style="font: 14.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 14.0px Helvetica"><b>Re: [ut3] Linux Client</b></font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 71.0px; text-indent: -71.0px"><font face="Helvetica" size="4" color="#000000" style="font: 14.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Reply-To: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="4" style="font: 14.0px Helvetica"><a href="mailto:ut3@icculus.org">ut3@icculus.org</a></font></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> </blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">uh?</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">AFAIK, the XBox uses Pentium processors for their work, not PPC... am i wrong?</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">On still another topic... Ryan, out of curious, do you how easy it is</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">to port to a game to OS X (Macintel) when compared to Linux?</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">I ask this because i see Parallels and VMware fusion already offering</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">support for 3D Virtualization but nothing on the Windows/Linux side.</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Since OS X supports OpenGL i imagine it would be equally simple to</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">port it to Linux/Windows... hope i made myself clear... just woke up,</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">and haven't been speaking english in quite some time... :)</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">On 10/26/07, Thomas Ilnseher <<a href="mailto:ilnseher@eit.uni-kl.de">ilnseher@eit.uni-kl.de</a>> wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">I don't believe in a PPC build either.</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">The hardware base that would actually still be able to play UT well</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">on a PPC machine is getting smaller every day and then you likely</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">can't simply recompile it for PPC. You'd likely have to sort out</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">endian issues, bitswapping and all that annoying stuff. I don't think</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">it would pay off in the end.</p> </blockquote><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">This bitswapping stuff needs to be done anyway, 'cause PS3 and YBoX use</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">PPCish hardware.but a build is definitively hard to do... like ryan</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">said: maybe ...</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">---</p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">To unsubscribe, send a blank email to <a href="mailto:ut3-unsubscribe@icculus.org">ut3-unsubscribe@icculus.org</a></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px">Mailing list archives: <a href="http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64">http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?64</a></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> </blockquote><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> <p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; min-height: 14.0px"><br></p> </blockquote></div></body></html>