[ut3] hey

Valeriy jazzvoid at gmail.com
Fri Sep 10 13:07:41 EDT 2010


Oh, please, not again. We've paid for a Windows version of UT3 (it was said
so on the DVD case, etc.), and we've got it. There was no Linux version
pre-order, there's nothing to talk about.

I really wish to know why did such thing happen, but I don't think that
there is a legal power to find this out.

2010/9/10 David L. Willson <DLWillson at thegeek.nu>

> I don't think Ceil cares about knowing what that problem was as much as he
> just wants the code, so we can finally play the MF'ing game.
>
> For those that care about finding out what the problem was, there ~is~ a
> way to find out, but you have to care enough to invest some time and effort.
> We'd have to start a class-action lawsuit, based on the $50 damages you each
> incurred when you purchased the game based on Mark Rein's false claim that
> there would be a Linux version. Then the emails and what-all can be
> subpoena'd, and you'd get to see who decided that it wasn't worth the work
> to replace the legally encumbered part that they were dumb enough to build
> into it, in the first place.
>
> Y'know, if they'd build the Linux version first, and then port to Windows,
> it'd be a LOT simpler.
>
> David L. Willson
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> ----- "robin van ee" <robinvanee at bananasoft.tk> wrote:
> > Yeah, I really want to know what that problem was now.
> >
> >
> > 2010/9/10 Ceil <ceil420 at gmail.com>
> >
>>
>> My kingdom for Ryan's hard drive! :(
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2010 1:06 AM, "Keith Z-G" <keithzg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > The exact quote from Ryan about the middleware holding things up (I
>> > > found it via google because I remembered one of the exact phrases he
>> > > said, and then just searched for exactly that and "Ryan Gordon").
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?/topic/43994-ut-3-for-linux/page__view__findpost__p__335129?s=5a35f00fa3cde4967f5f84b1ef913102
>> > >
>> > > Here's the text of the post for those lazy / for future reference:
>> > >
>> > > ===================================================
>> > >
>> > > Posted 21 November 2007 - 04:15 PM
>> > >
>> > > sorry but ... linux version of UT3 maybe not on this year
>> > >
>> > > While hanging out on IRC, I asked the big question of the day, "Has
>> > > anyone heard from Icculus on the UT3 server or client?" Here's the
>> > > dialog that resulted from the question:
>> > >
>> > > <icculus> it's stuck in legal
>> > > <augustus> Legal? Seriously? Have you had legal involved in previous
>> games?
>> > > <icculus> Not like this, no
>> > > <icculus> There's some issues with middleware
>> > > <augustus> so is the hold-up indefinite?
>> > > <icculus> augustus: not indefinite
>> > > <icculus> augustus: the politics should be worked out for the server
>> > > soon, I'm removing the offending piece of code.
>> > > <augustus> icculus: And the client?
>> > > <icculus> augustus: that's going to take somewhat longer
>> > > <augustus> icculus: From the sound of it, there is no ETA then?
>> > > <icculus> augustus: I'm not committing to one
>> > > <augustus> icculus: I understand. Seems like it's quite out of your
>> hands.
>> > > <icculus> If I told you what the specific problem is, you wouldn't
>> believe me
>> > > * icculus declines to say more. :)
>> > >
>> > > And, while I had his attention, I had to ask: "Are you doing a Gears
>> > > of War port?"
>> > > <icculus> augustus: for Mac OS X, yes.
>> > > <augustus> icculus: Linux no then?
>> > > <icculus> augustus: There's something about a Linux port that the
>> > > Gears publisher doesn't like...can't quite put my finger on it...
>> > > <augustus> icculus: I was afraid of that.
>> > > <augustus> icculus: Funny that Mac isn't a competitor but Linux is.
>> > > <icculus> I don't speak for Microsoft, but I assume it's just company
>> > > policy to not do anything Linux related.
>> > >
>> > > :(
>> > >
>> > > ===============================================
>> > >
>> > > A slightly personal note: What I guess was some time ago, Ryan ported
>> > > Prey over to Linux. I had bought Prey but, after playing it a tad,
>> > > never finished it since I couldn't really bring myself to boot into
>> > > Windows. His port of Prey gave me the opportunity to actually play
>> > > through the game I had bought without having to basically disconnect
>> > > (via booting into Windows) the central point of my home network, ie. I
>> > > actually got around to playing through it. Without Ryan's work I
>> > > would have wasted my money in buying that game. I sent him off an
>> > > e-mail thanking him, and he responded promptly and positively. If
>> > > there's any fundamental tragedy here it's that Ryan's work on UT3 has
>> > > been lost----he's a good guy as far as I can tell, and a hell of a
>> > > programmer, but because of absurd legal permutations his work is never
>> > > going to see the light of day, and we're never going to get to enjoy
>> > > it. It's a fucking shame, and I don't believe for a second that Ryan
>> > > is at any fault here; he's been screwed over just like the rest of us.
>> > >
>> > > But hey, we've got a hell of an off-topic discussion board out of it!
>> ;)
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Ryan Barton <debian.moment at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> Ah yes sorry I was fuzzy on the details
>> > >>
>> > >> On 09/08/2010 09:05 AM, Valeriy wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> If you mean this
>> > >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODI1OA
>> > >> Then it's not Mark Rein, but, yeah, it's canned for a long time
>> anyway.
>> > >> Though I wish Epic could say "never" instead of "unlikely" :(
>> > >>
>> > >> 2010/9/8 Ryan Barton <debian.moment at gmail.com>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> For those of you who missed it, mark rein told phoronix ut3 for
>> linux is
>> > >>> canned. Phoronix likes to make things up but this time I believe
>> him.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Sep 8, 2010 12:41 AM, "Daniel Eckl" <daniel.eckl at gmx.de> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> In this case, you failed epically. Never saw such a great discussion
>> > >>> on this list with good infos and great mood.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 2010/9/8 Clayton <wellsfrago at gmail.com>:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > I am very entertained that I started this stupid flare up
>> > >>>
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