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Thu Mar 12 03:23:25 EDT 2009


Yes, Linux is not suitable for games. Actually, Linux is fine for games, games are simply not made for Linux. So if you're a PC gamer, anything but Windows is not a choice (and if you say Wine works great, I'll slap you). 

Now, I do have to admit a little guilt in responding here, because I knew all you guys like to bitch and moan anytime someone comes in here that doesn't agree with you, but sorry. The reality of this situation is that you are bitter and want to blame someone other than yourselves. This is really more like if you called up the dealership, asked if the car had GPS, told no but it should be released free at some point in the future, bought the car anyway and then proceeded to complain that the GPS was still not out after a year. You bought the car despite the fact that it was missing the one thing you wanted it for, you're the one to blame in that scenario. 

Brizz 

On 2/6/09 10:39 AM, [FnG] Lambik wrote: 


The person that told 'It has GPS in it' happens to be the salesperson, and then yes you can expect to have GPS in it ! 
Not sure what kind of point you're trying to make, but seems to me your only business here is to stir thing up, 
as you have state to play games on windows only.(Linux not suitable ??) 
Pre ordering a game has the risk of getting something that isn't quite what you expect of it, but in this case there has been promised support for linux OS aswell. 
Epic has the reputation to support linux on all UT series, which has formed a good basis of trust, which they have broken, and that is why ppl are upset with EPIC. 
That is something they have every right to. 

Lambik 


On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Sir Brizz < sir.brizz at gmail.com > wrote: 



For what? They didn't market UT3 as having Linux binaries included or available. 

The problem here is that Epic never guaranteed anything. I appreciate you wanting brand new boxes or whatever your case may be, however that doesn't change the fact that you bought something that didn't include the sole thing you bought it for. Can you imagine, taking this same thing to a more terrible and surely less appropriate analogy, if you bought a car because someone said it had GPS in it, never test drove it, and realized after purchasing it that it didn't have GPS in it? Would you blame the person who told you or yourself for not looking into it more? 

I understand that people wanted and were expecting and (possibly) promised Linux binaries and are upset, but, frankly, you DON'T have anyone to blame but yourself if you paid the money for it already. Did Epic make you spend that money? YOU were encouraged by what they said, YOU made a decision, and YOU spent the money. 

Brizz 



On 2/6/09 10:14 AM, Luiz Gustavo Angelo wrote: 

Epic could be sued by this, couldn't ?? 


On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Matthias Bach < marix at marix.org > wrote: 


Hi! 


On Friday 06 February 2009 17:57:02 Sir Brizz wrote: 

And for those of you whining about how you bought the game and haven't 
played it because there is no Linux client, sorry but maybe you should 
have waited to buy it until there actually was the only thing you were 
buying it for? That seems like the practical thing to do in any 
situation. You are missing the point. When I ordered the game there had been a statement 
by Epic that there would be a Linux-Installer on disc, as it had been with 
2K4. Later they said it wouldn't be on disk, but available on the day of 
release. Therefore, as I kind of like to have nice game boxes that I can show 
of, I did not bother to cancel my preorder. The problem is that I trusted Epic 
to keep to their promises. 

Did you buy Prey the day it came out hoping that Ryan Gordon 
would release a Linux binary for it, too? No I didn't, because nobody promised that Prey would be ported. When it 
finally was ported this was a pleasent surprise. 

If you want to be a thrifty 
consumer, then be thrifty. And if you aren't thrifty, don't whine that 
you made a mistake and try to blame it on Epic or anyone else. You don't 
have anyone to blame but yourselves. Maybe I have, but then it is not for expecting Epic to make a port, but for 
trusting Epic to deliver the software I ordered. 

Personally, I'm sure a Linux binary will eventually come out for UT3 and 
when it does I will probably use it. Maybe it will, after all it's already supposed to be done. The real question 
is, will their still body to play against. Will the engine still be something 
competitive to base your mods on? By the time it will probably take one could 
just as well start writing an own engine ... 

Regards, 
Matthias 



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